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THE WITZL Forums Junkie Toymods Social Secretary Location: Sydney Registered: July 2002	Re: Home wiring help Thu, 14 August 2003 02:14 Nark.... go to Jaycar in Fyshwick As for the little bitch fight going on here.... The argument put forward by cool1 in theory is correct. However, as homer says, "In theory, communism works" The point that the electric fence will produce a waveform that is "chopped up as hell" is an overstated exaggeration. The most common form of electric fence generator is the battery operated versions most small paddocks etc use. These generate usually around 5-10kV from a 6V square battery, and are required to be current limited for fucken obvious reasons. (if you don't know why, don't argue) The statement that the wave could be 4mA for 50ms and then 3mA for 500ms is complete BS. These devices operate using a capacitor (rough explanation), and in all my experiments, time discharge logging and otherwise i have NEVER seen a capacitor discharge in an irregular fashion as you state. The other type of electric fence generator is the type used in most larger farms (like at Toobs' place). These operate using the same type of electronics - typically a large discharge capacitor with a time regulating circuit and current limiting protection. Operate usually a bit higher than 5kV. The crux of my argument is, that yes the waveform can be "chopped up as hell" at varying points and varying times in an electic fence circuit since the wiring is usually very rough. HOWEVER, the devices that generate electric fences have protection circuitry that limits the output to that which is safe and non-lethal. Hence by the basic principles of physics (energy can't be created) an electic fence isn't as dangerous as stated. Personal experience - i have been shocked by both of the above. The battery operated version gave a zap varying from a small tickle to a decent whack that made me jump (was installing this unit for a friend). The mains operated unit i only have been shocked by once - it was like a punch in the back which made me jump like buggery (i swore that my friend had just hit a golf ball into my back ) [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Home wiring help	Nark	Wed, 13 August 2003 06:55
	Re: Home wiring help	THE WITZL	Wed, 13 August 2003 07:34
	Re: Home wiring help	BlackSupra	Wed, 13 August 2003 08:04
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Wed, 13 August 2003 08:17
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Wed, 13 August 2003 08:50
	Re: Home wiring help	draven	Wed, 13 August 2003 09:03
	Re: Home wiring help	BlackSupra	Wed, 13 August 2003 10:31
	Re: Home wiring help	draven	Wed, 13 August 2003 10:32
	Re: Home wiring help	clubagreenie	Wed, 13 August 2003 12:06
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Wed, 13 August 2003 12:13
	Re: Home wiring help	need_boost	Wed, 13 August 2003 12:26
	Re: Home wiring help	sleeka73	Wed, 13 August 2003 12:33
	Re: Home wiring help	draven	Wed, 13 August 2003 12:38
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Wed, 13 August 2003 12:30
	Re: Home wiring help	need_boost	Wed, 13 August 2003 12:36
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Wed, 13 August 2003 12:38
	Re: Home wiring help	need_boost	Wed, 13 August 2003 12:40
	Re: Home wiring help	draven	Wed, 13 August 2003 12:50
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Wed, 13 August 2003 12:52
	Re: Home wiring help	draven	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:05
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:08
	Re: Home wiring help	justcallmefrank	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:03
	Re: Home wiring help	justcallmefrank	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:07
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:12
	Re: Home wiring help	justcallmefrank	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:14
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:15
	Re: Home wiring help	justcallmefrank	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:17
	Re: Home wiring help	draven	Wed, 13 August 2003 20:05
	Re: Home wiring help	Nark	Wed, 13 August 2003 23:20
	Re: Home wiring help	draven	Thu, 14 August 2003 07:08
	Re: Home wiring help	need_boost	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:14
	Re: Home wiring help	justcallmefrank	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:16
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:19
	Re: Home wiring help	justcallmefrank	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:20
	Re: Home wiring help	need_boost	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:21
	Re: Home wiring help	justcallmefrank	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:22
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:24
	Re: Home wiring help	justcallmefrank	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:28
	Re: Home wiring help	whiteGZE	Thu, 14 August 2003 08:16
	Re: Home wiring help	draven	Thu, 14 August 2003 09:51
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:26
	Re: Home wiring help	need_boost	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:27
	Re: Home wiring help	lang	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:32
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Wed, 13 August 2003 13:35
	Re: Home wiring help	THE WITZL	Thu, 14 August 2003 02:14
	Re: Home wiring help	Nark	Thu, 14 August 2003 02:22
	Re: Home wiring help	Nark	Thu, 14 August 2003 05:36
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Thu, 14 August 2003 02:34
	Re: Home wiring help	THE WITZL	Thu, 14 August 2003 11:43
	Re: Home wiring help	draven	Thu, 14 August 2003 11:47
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Thu, 14 August 2003 12:02
	Re: Home wiring help	need_boost	Thu, 14 August 2003 12:37
	Re: Home wiring help	THE WITZL	Thu, 14 August 2003 12:39
	Re: Home wiring help	Cool1	Thu, 14 August 2003 13:12
	Re: Home wiring help	lang	Thu, 14 August 2003 13:53
	Re: Home wiring help	Nark	Thu, 14 August 2003 23:43
	Re: Home wiring help	THE WITZL	Fri, 15 August 2003 01:00
	Re: Home wiring help	Nark	Fri, 15 August 2003 01:08
	Re: Home wiring help	oldcorollas	Tue, 26 August 2003 15:08
	Re: Home wiring help	Nark	Tue, 26 August 2003 23:57
	Re: Home wiring help	oldcorollas	Wed, 27 August 2003 01:38
	Re: Home wiring help	draven	Wed, 27 August 2003 01:53
	Re: Home wiring help	THE WITZL	Fri, 15 August 2003 01:11

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