| Author | Topic |
|---|
I supported Toymods
Banned User
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Thu, 14 August 2003 02:34
 
|
 |
| THE WITZL wrote on Thu, 14 August 2003 12:14 |
Nark.... go to Jaycar in Fyshwick 
As for the little bitch fight going on here....
The argument put forward by cool1 in theory is correct.
However, as homer says, "In theory, communism works"
The point that the electric fence will produce a waveform that is "chopped up as hell" is an overstated exaggeration. The most common form of electric fence generator is the battery operated versions most small paddocks etc use. These generate usually around 5-10kV from a 6V square battery, and are required to be current limited for fucken obvious reasons. (if you don't know why, don't argue)
The statement that the wave could be 4mA for 50ms and then 3mA for 500ms is complete BS. These devices operate using a capacitor (rough explanation), and in all my experiments, time discharge logging and otherwise i have NEVER seen a capacitor discharge in an irregular fashion as you state.
The other type of electric fence generator is the type used in most larger farms (like at Toobs' place). These operate using the same type of electronics - typically a large discharge capacitor with a time regulating circuit and current limiting protection. Operate usually a bit higher than 5kV.
The crux of my argument is, that yes the waveform can be "chopped up as hell" at varying points and varying times in an electic fence circuit since the wiring is usually very rough. HOWEVER, the devices that generate electric fences have protection circuitry that limits the output to that which is safe and non-lethal. Hence by the basic principles of physics (energy can't be created) an electic fence isn't as dangerous as stated.
Personal experience - i have been shocked by both of the above. The battery operated version gave a zap varying from a small tickle to a decent whack that made me jump (was installing this unit for a friend).
The mains operated unit i only have been shocked by once - it was like a punch in the back which made me jump like buggery (i swore that my friend had just hit a golf ball into my back )
|
What a load of crap 
Anything that induces an electric shock can be lethal! You say that you have NEVER seen a capacitor discharge in an irregular fashion this just proves you are the biggest tool! If you knew what a capacitor was and how it was made you would know that they charge and discharge completely quicker and slower depending on temperature, voltage waveform and a who bunch of other things.
I'm not saying this stuff because I've worked at Jaycar(because I haven't), I'm saying this because I'm qualified on this subject. When you go to college and work in this industry for 6 years then come back and speak ya knowledge!
|
|
|
| | Subject | Poster | Date |
|---|
 |
Home wiring help
|
Nark | Wed, 13 August 2003 06:55 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
THE WITZL | Wed, 13 August 2003 07:34 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
BlackSupra | Wed, 13 August 2003 08:04 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Wed, 13 August 2003 08:17 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Wed, 13 August 2003 08:50 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
draven | Wed, 13 August 2003 09:03 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
BlackSupra | Wed, 13 August 2003 10:31 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
draven | Wed, 13 August 2003 10:32 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
clubagreenie | Wed, 13 August 2003 12:06 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Wed, 13 August 2003 12:13 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
need_boost | Wed, 13 August 2003 12:26 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
sleeka73 | Wed, 13 August 2003 12:33 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
draven | Wed, 13 August 2003 12:38 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Wed, 13 August 2003 12:30 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
need_boost | Wed, 13 August 2003 12:36 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Wed, 13 August 2003 12:38 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
need_boost | Wed, 13 August 2003 12:40 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
draven | Wed, 13 August 2003 12:50 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Wed, 13 August 2003 12:52 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
draven | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:05 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:08 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
justcallmefrank | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:03 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
justcallmefrank | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:07 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:12 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
justcallmefrank | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:14 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:15 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
justcallmefrank | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:17 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
draven | Wed, 13 August 2003 20:05 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Nark | Wed, 13 August 2003 23:20 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
draven | Thu, 14 August 2003 07:08 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
need_boost | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:14 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
justcallmefrank | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:16 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:19 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
justcallmefrank | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:20 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
need_boost | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:21 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
justcallmefrank | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:22 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:24 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
justcallmefrank | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:28 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
whiteGZE | Thu, 14 August 2003 08:16 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
draven | Thu, 14 August 2003 09:51 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:26 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
need_boost | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:27 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
lang | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:32 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Wed, 13 August 2003 13:35 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
THE WITZL | Thu, 14 August 2003 02:14 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Nark | Thu, 14 August 2003 02:22 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Nark | Thu, 14 August 2003 05:36 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Thu, 14 August 2003 02:34 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
THE WITZL | Thu, 14 August 2003 11:43 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
draven | Thu, 14 August 2003 11:47 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Thu, 14 August 2003 12:02 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
need_boost | Thu, 14 August 2003 12:37 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
THE WITZL | Thu, 14 August 2003 12:39 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Cool1 | Thu, 14 August 2003 13:12 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
lang | Thu, 14 August 2003 13:53 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Nark | Thu, 14 August 2003 23:43 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
THE WITZL | Fri, 15 August 2003 01:00 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Nark | Fri, 15 August 2003 01:08 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
oldcorollas | Tue, 26 August 2003 15:08 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
Nark | Tue, 26 August 2003 23:57 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
oldcorollas | Wed, 27 August 2003 01:38 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
draven | Wed, 27 August 2003 01:53 |
|
Re: Home wiring help
|
THE WITZL | Fri, 15 August 2003 01:11 |
