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7M-Brisbane Forums Junkie Location: Brisbane Registered: November 2002	Re: WTB Supra Fri, 15 August 2003 14:10 I really struggle to control myself sometimes. I almost ENJOY arguing with you people. Esselte wrote on Thu, 14 August 2003 23:48 haha, yeah, clearly the mechanic who works in a performance workshop has no idea what he's doing... I was recently speaking to a workshop owner that did not know what a 1GGTE was. He suggested that it was probably a Nissan motor, then that it was actually a four cylinder, then that I had it confused with a twin turbo engine known as the RB20, and then thought I was talking about a 2JZ because that's the only motor Supras ever came with. Sorry kiddo, but working in the industry does not qualify the fact that you know what you are talking about. In fact, just a few weeks ago I went to Autobarn to purchase a set of plugs for my 7M "Hi, I'd like a set of plugs to suit a 1989 Toyota Supra Turbo with the 7MGTE Engine, and I would like one step colder than the factory rating"... I was then told that they did not have a listing for the car and that I would need to bring a plug in so that they could compare it with stock items. I corrected the guy and advised that they were definitely listed. He did some digging and then I had to explain what the heat ratings on plugs were all about. The guy promptly returned with the right spark plugs. Four of them. I told him I would need more, then he argued that they were definitely a four cylinder. Reluctantly he gave up, mumbling under his breath that I knew not what I was on about. He got me two more plugs. I then asked him to let me know what the factory recommended plug gap was because I couldn't remember it off the top of my head. He then told me that because it was an import that it would not be available. I tried to tell him it was not an import and eventually just gave up and said "No worries, thanks mate" and walked off shaking my head. Quote: believe what u want guys, but most advanced articles by anyone who understands the ins and outs of the 7m-gte (i.e. fully rebuilt the engine and put together for racing) treat the head gasket as a maintanence issue, they don't even treat it as avoidable, expect it every 80 000 kms, and if you're going to up boost, keep a few gaskets handy. Question: How many 7MGTE's have you owned? How many others have you worked on? How much of your 'knowledge' is hands on? I would suggest that the answers are "Zero", "None", and again... "None". I do stand corrected if you are indeed someone who "understands the ins and outs of the 7m-gte (i.e. fully rebuilt the engine and put together for racing)" Quote: BTW - one of the sources of information in that debate was a workshop that does r&d for toyota, and they conducted a few empirical tests on the re-torquing of the head bolts and found that it decreased the chances of blowing a head gasket by like 10% or something (would source it if supraforums wasn't down) - u can't tell me they've got NFI, and no offence if i havn't 'sniffed out' what's valid or not, i don't judge validity by nationality, but if i've read the same thing by 99% of information sources, most of which are from mechanics and even toyota themselves, i believed it. Like i said, believe what you want. On the whole, they don't know about anything that's not available in a HKS catalogue. Hell, I remember telling an incredulous group of American forum-goers that you can have a "custom" exhaust made up for your car. It may be a generalisation that I make, but I'd suggest that it's a pretty damn accurate one. And an engine that is built for "racing" would never last 80,000kms anyway, who are you kidding? [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	WTB Supra	Layoric	Mon, 11 August 2003 05:35
	Re: WTB Supra	Esselte	Mon, 11 August 2003 05:58
	Re: WTB Supra	Layoric	Mon, 11 August 2003 11:30
	Re: WTB Supra	turbokid	Tue, 12 August 2003 00:10
	Re: WTB Supra	Esselte	Tue, 12 August 2003 09:42
	Re: WTB Supra	7M-Brisbane	Thu, 14 August 2003 12:40
	Re: WTB Supra	gianttomato	Thu, 14 August 2003 13:04
	Re: WTB Supra	Esselte	Thu, 14 August 2003 13:48
	Re: WTB Supra	Esselte	Thu, 14 August 2003 14:14
	Re: WTB Supra	7M-Brisbane	Fri, 15 August 2003 14:10
	Re: WTB Supra	Esselte	Fri, 15 August 2003 15:31
	Re: WTB Supra	gianttomato	Sat, 16 August 2003 00:03
	Re: WTB Supra	Esselte	Sat, 16 August 2003 02:29
	Re: WTB Supra	gianttomato	Sat, 16 August 2003 02:33
	Re: WTB Supra	Esselte	Sat, 16 August 2003 02:44
	Re: WTB Supra	gianttomato	Sat, 16 August 2003 02:51
	Re: WTB Supra	Esselte	Sat, 16 August 2003 03:05
	Re: WTB Supra	gianttomato	Sat, 16 August 2003 03:07
	Re: WTB Supra	Esselte	Sat, 16 August 2003 03:09
	Re: WTB Supra	gianttomato	Sat, 16 August 2003 03:28
	Re: WTB Supra	Esselte	Sat, 16 August 2003 06:23
	Re: WTB Supra	gianttomato	Sat, 16 August 2003 07:35
	Re: WTB Supra	SupraBOY	Sat, 16 August 2003 02:25
	Re: WTB Supra	7M-Brisbane	Sat, 16 August 2003 09:03
	Re: WTB Supra	Esselte	Sat, 16 August 2003 09:21
	Re: WTB Supra	Esselte	Sat, 16 August 2003 09:38
	Re: WTB Supra	7M-Brisbane	Sat, 16 August 2003 09:38
	Re: WTB Supra	7M-Brisbane	Sat, 16 August 2003 09:48
	Re: WTB Supra	Esselte	Sat, 16 August 2003 09:57
	Re: WTB Supra	7M-Brisbane	Sat, 16 August 2003 10:23
	locked thread	DannyGT4	Sun, 17 August 2003 04:32

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