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Re: Celica (st162) vs Supra (1984)	Thu, 28 August 2003 09:14

Ha ! well i can pretty much vouch for every camp here I have a celica Gt4 ( i know its a turbo - but ive also driven numerous 162's ), a Supra ma61 next to it and my last car was a 1977 6.2 litle 351 fairylane Ok - all in all - the Gt4 spanks the lot - no competition from ANY of the other two The fairlane was a pure torque monster ( 400 odd Nm of torquiness is fun ) - they weigh an F-ing tonnee or three , have shit brakes , handle like the titanic - but are SO DAMN comfy to cruise in . Its built purely for old men to roll around in and relax - its by no means a sportscar - and never will be. The supra ( in stock form with auto ) handles pretty good - but the engine leaves ALOT to be desired in its stock setup - it seems way too " wheesy " and this is compunded mores by the auto - BUT get it above say 60KM - and the handling is very good - the brakes are up therw rith the best , the auto actually becomes useful in " maual down/upshifting " and its pretty sporty - BUT it is a GT car - its big + long - with comfy goodness inside .. Im pretty sure with stiffened suspension , and a engine package like norbie now has most of the " faults " ive pointed would dissaprar briskly BUT id still say a Gt4 would outhandle and out brake it, but wouldnt have the top end grunt or torque . The Gt4 - in relative stock form is so precise - reasonably well balanced and really comes into its element when corners are thrown at it - you point turn and lay in the right foot and it just GOES - and stays ! it could probably do with a better power band - ( im guessing alot of this comes down to the restrictiveness of the exhaust flow - to be tested soon ) Seats wise - its probably not up to par with either the fairlane ( luxurious armchair ) or supra ( huggy grippy goodness ) but thats the only real minus i see against all three that i have owned and driven side by side .. Keep your celica - make it breathe - and have alot of fun! - no point changing what alot of us know is a great package in your st162 ! [Report message to a moderator]

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