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ed_ma61 Forums Junkie Location: Lost in the K hole Registered: May 2002	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?) Wed, 03 September 2003 01:44 franky, i guess 'relatively' should be thrown in there. what year did the bmw v12 design originate? i dont know myself. i suspect it was much later than the jag model, and 'relatively' speaking, should be significantly more advanced in design - but it isnt. i dont have enough specs in my head to answer your question confidently. simply because ive been more focussed on the 60's head design that comparing the bmw numbers. that said, from preliminary reading, there is nothig at all that excites me in the bmw design. it was a cheap build, with a very budget route taken to head and intake design. its still a sohc, theres nothing flash in the comb chamb design, the compression is lower. theres probably up sides to the motor as well, but as i mentioned, i havent done the reading. i dont even know what the bore stroke is (would be doing well to elbow out 90x70mm). i also highly doubt that the bmw v12 grows on trees, and is available in the junk yards (and peoples backyards when wrecking their rusted shitboxes)... that said, sing me their praises.... the jag v12 has a LOT of hitory and heritage behind it which makes it an attractive piece to reserach, and discover the deign developments. engineering of the post war period has always interested me, and this is one way i can actually get into it a little more comprhensively granted, this might not lead to a brilliant highly efficient powerhouse (by todays standrds) but thats not really the goal i have in mind cheers ed [Updated on: Wed, 03 September 2003 01:46] [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Mon, 01 September 2003 06:08
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	justcallmefrank	Mon, 01 September 2003 08:41
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	Allan	Mon, 01 September 2003 09:56
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	chrisss	Mon, 01 September 2003 10:16
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Mon, 01 September 2003 13:32
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	justcallmefrank	Mon, 01 September 2003 14:01
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	rob_RA40	Mon, 01 September 2003 22:19
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	SupraPete	Mon, 01 September 2003 23:02
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	TheStitt	Mon, 01 September 2003 23:40
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	Cyber-punk	Tue, 02 September 2003 00:55
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	gianttomato	Tue, 02 September 2003 03:17
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	SupraPete	Tue, 02 September 2003 03:25
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	Drift pig	Tue, 02 September 2003 03:56
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	BlackSupra	Tue, 02 September 2003 04:07
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	THE WITZL	Tue, 02 September 2003 04:06
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	SupraPete	Tue, 02 September 2003 05:27
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Tue, 02 September 2003 05:50
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Tue, 02 September 2003 06:01
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Tue, 02 September 2003 06:51
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	rob_RA40	Tue, 02 September 2003 07:40
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	chrisss	Tue, 02 September 2003 09:03
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Tue, 02 September 2003 09:56
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	BigWorm	Tue, 02 September 2003 10:00
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Tue, 02 September 2003 10:23
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	Norbie	Wed, 03 September 2003 00:09
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	gianttomato	Wed, 03 September 2003 00:21
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	draven	Tue, 02 September 2003 10:28
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	gianttomato	Tue, 02 September 2003 11:11
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	SupraPete	Tue, 02 September 2003 23:21
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 00:23
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	Norbie	Wed, 03 September 2003 04:17
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 04:20
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	biased99	Wed, 03 September 2003 05:26
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	justcallmefrank	Wed, 03 September 2003 00:25
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	gianttomato	Wed, 03 September 2003 00:35
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 00:33
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	justcallmefrank	Wed, 03 September 2003 00:36
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 00:40
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	gianttomato	Wed, 03 September 2003 01:00
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 01:11
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	justcallmefrank	Wed, 03 September 2003 01:33
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 01:44
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	justcallmefrank	Wed, 03 September 2003 01:47
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 01:53
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	justcallmefrank	Wed, 03 September 2003 01:55
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 01:59
	Uber V12	gianttomato	Wed, 03 September 2003 02:09
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 02:17
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	justcallmefrank	Wed, 03 September 2003 02:27
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 02:26
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 02:38
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	coronamark2	Wed, 03 September 2003 02:48
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	justcallmefrank	Wed, 03 September 2003 02:57
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 03:59
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	wastegate	Wed, 03 September 2003 04:22
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 04:29
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	Norbie	Wed, 03 September 2003 08:10
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 08:18
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	justcallmefrank	Wed, 03 September 2003 07:34
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	hydro	Wed, 03 September 2003 08:27
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 08:12
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	justcallmefrank	Wed, 03 September 2003 11:27
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	biased99	Wed, 03 September 2003 11:37
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	Norbie	Wed, 03 September 2003 08:29
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 08:40
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	gianttomato	Wed, 03 September 2003 09:06
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 09:13
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	moo4AGZETA22	Wed, 03 September 2003 09:26
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 08:35
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	Alchemist	Wed, 03 September 2003 08:36
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 08:58
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	justcallmefrank	Wed, 03 September 2003 11:44
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	biased99	Thu, 04 September 2003 01:37
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	thechuckster	Wed, 03 September 2003 11:57
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	gianttomato	Thu, 04 September 2003 04:00
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Wed, 03 September 2003 13:58
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	THE WITZL	Thu, 04 September 2003 00:16
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Thu, 04 September 2003 07:25
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Thu, 04 September 2003 07:45
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	chrisss	Thu, 04 September 2003 07:59
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Thu, 04 September 2003 08:07
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	chrisss	Thu, 04 September 2003 08:11
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Thu, 04 September 2003 09:00
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	gianttomato	Thu, 04 September 2003 09:04
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	ed_ma61	Thu, 04 September 2003 09:27
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	gianttomato	Thu, 04 September 2003 09:35
	Re: size limits in the MA70 engine bay... (pete?)	draven	Thu, 04 September 2003 09:28

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