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[TOYROTA] Regular Location: A.C.T Registered: July 2002	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners Sun, 14 July 2002 16:50 just thought i'd add my 2cents worth. I am 17 and currently own a TA22. If it were'nt for my sudden change to the 'old-school-rotor-style' a few years back, i would most certainly own an AE86 now. I have always loved them since i was very young and although i am a big fan of drift, proper drift like the JMS drift kings, not stock gemini's with lockers (CIG welded diffs for those who have been around slightly longer), i had an interest in the Sprinters long before drifting was made popular. My friend had one with a 4AGZE which i thought was a real neat thing at the time. I had almost certainly made up my mind that i wanted one exactly like his but to be left as a sleeper on the outside. I started talking to others who had similar sprinters. However after starting high school, meeting new people and gaining new friends, my priorities began to change. Although my love for the Sprinter will never be destroyed, it only took me around 6 months from absolutely hating rotaries and everything about them, to becoming one of the biggest rotor heads around. Some may say i have no morals and just go with the flow, however i feel that my previous hate for anything that goes Brap Brap Brap (read : rotaries) was just a result of my fathers strong influence. He was all about good old old-school cars, he owns the very first PRB clubman ever built. (some may know what a PRB is, 4 those who don't, it's an Australian made replica of the lotus super seven, similar to other inferior brands such as Frazers, Caterhams, Westfields etc.) Anyway, dad's PRB has a cross flow escort 1600 bored out to 1760cc with twin 45mm webbers, lumpy cam the lot, cosworth stuff, and he used to, and still does, race against the likes of bridge ported RX3's and stuff like that. I think that really the only reason he dislikes rotors is due to their noise (You either love it or hate it) and the lasting impression most people have of their early reliability problems. anyway, back on track, i've swapped over to the port-jobbed rotary scene, buying my Celica (have loved the TA22 almost as long as the AE86) and hopefully dropping my 13B J-port in soon. Yes my car is the Big wheeled', loud subb'd, bright candy apple green painted', old-school meets new school rotary thing that is becoming so popular these days. However, besides my current interest and taste in vehicles, i still have time and respect for a wide and diverse range of vehicles rangeing from old, like my dads PRB, to new, S6 RX7's with airbrushing and Auto salon style bodykits. To even extreame like the crazy american 'Lowrider' '64 Impala's with $20,000 hydraulics. Now when i see one of these other 'styles' of vehicles driving around, i have nothing but respect for their owners for what they have done with their vehicle, and the way in which it was designed to be driven. What i am talking about is i don't go around bagging other peoples 'style' just because it's not me. Whether it goes around corners sideways or conventional, whether it doesn't even go around corners at all, or whether it is just crazy and goes up and down instead of forward (see lowriders) i can see how each individual would get pleasure out of their ride. Same goes for those who HATE Rotaries or HATE V8's or HATE 4cylinders, that's just a load of crap. Anyway, after informing the previous individuals i used to associate with (see AE86 drivers from start of story) about my newfound love of rotaries and the old-school scene, i copped nothing but insults and people bagging my car. "What do you need a stereo for, that's just extra weight" "Why do you need such big wheels on a little car" "Who cares how powerful it is, it sounds like a chicken on steroids" "That white interior is stupid, it'll just get dirty really easy" "Just sell that crap and get a AE86" I copped it from all directions. It just made me think of how single minded and un- accepting people are of things that they wouldn't have built themselves. Just because they don't like it, doesn't mean it's crap. It's different, thats all, not crap. If some of them want to drive around in stock looking cars with quick motors and drive them off their wheels on the track like i once did, then so be it. If some want their car to look good and be noticed, to cruise around slowly and listen to their favourite tunes, then fine. Everybody's different. Just imagine if everybody liked the exact same car, the exact same style, and drove the exact same way. Just imagine how boring this world would be. André [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	RANT: Sprinter owners	AE86_Sprinter	Tue, 09 July 2002 08:56
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	manipulate	Tue, 09 July 2002 09:15
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	IRA11Y	Tue, 09 July 2002 10:24
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Blown86	Tue, 09 July 2002 12:01
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	1bam777	Tue, 09 July 2002 12:34
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	grimwolge	Tue, 06 August 2002 12:22
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Ribbo	Tue, 09 July 2002 12:51
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Jonny2TG	Tue, 09 July 2002 12:55
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	AE86_Sprinter	Wed, 10 July 2002 00:44
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	ae86trueno	Wed, 10 July 2002 01:45
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	spr000	Wed, 10 July 2002 03:40
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	mrshin	Tue, 09 July 2002 23:47
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Youngy	Thu, 11 July 2002 13:43
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	shinybluesteel	Fri, 11 April 2003 07:55
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	purpleminiep	Thu, 11 July 2002 14:48
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	LiL_MiC	Thu, 11 July 2002 15:23
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	spr000	Thu, 11 July 2002 16:32
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Blown86	Thu, 11 July 2002 20:00
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Incredible_Serious	Fri, 12 July 2002 02:01
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	mrshin	Sat, 13 July 2002 03:16
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	fOOZ86	Sat, 13 July 2002 23:11
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Youngy	Sat, 13 July 2002 23:54
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Ribbo	Sun, 14 July 2002 04:55
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	1bam777	Sun, 14 July 2002 06:34
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	EVOSTi	Sun, 14 July 2002 11:31
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Blown86	Sun, 14 July 2002 13:34
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	mrshin	Sun, 14 July 2002 14:00
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	fOOZ86	Sun, 14 July 2002 15:08
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	idfamily	Sun, 14 July 2002 16:18
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Stefan	Wed, 17 July 2002 14:43
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	[TOYROTA]	Sun, 14 July 2002 16:50
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	fOOZ86	Sun, 14 July 2002 19:14
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	AE86_Sprinter	Mon, 15 July 2002 00:45
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	AZAE86	Mon, 15 July 2002 07:06
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	EMP-2TG	Tue, 16 July 2002 00:32
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	ae86drift	Tue, 06 August 2002 15:36
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	RobertoX	Wed, 07 August 2002 00:45
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	thug_immortal	Wed, 07 August 2002 10:16
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	EVOSTi	Thu, 08 August 2002 06:49
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	biased99	Fri, 09 August 2002 03:56
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Les	Fri, 09 August 2002 04:19
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	thug_immortal	Fri, 09 August 2002 04:42
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	RollaLevin	Fri, 16 August 2002 00:30
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	floody	Fri, 16 August 2002 06:33
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	HaroldJ	Fri, 16 August 2002 07:36
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Levin	Fri, 16 August 2002 11:32
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	katsuchiyo	Fri, 11 April 2003 02:57
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Cal_AE86	Fri, 11 April 2003 06:25
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	karade	Fri, 11 April 2003 05:54
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	katsuchiyo	Fri, 11 April 2003 06:09
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	katsuchiyo	Fri, 11 April 2003 06:41
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	fOOZ86	Fri, 11 April 2003 06:48
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	katsuchiyo	Fri, 11 April 2003 07:11
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	EMP-2TG	Fri, 11 April 2003 09:06
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	toycelica77	Fri, 11 April 2003 11:26
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	EMP-2TG	Fri, 11 April 2003 14:08
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	katsuchiyo	Fri, 11 April 2003 16:26
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	karade	Fri, 11 April 2003 08:45
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	ae86drift	Fri, 11 April 2003 14:24
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	EMP-2TG	Fri, 11 April 2003 23:06
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	katsuchiyo	Sat, 12 April 2003 17:43
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	fOOZ86	Sat, 12 April 2003 18:23
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	katsuchiyo	Sun, 13 April 2003 00:54
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Blown86	Sun, 13 April 2003 04:38
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Widowmaker	Sun, 13 April 2003 06:17
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	fOOZ86	Sun, 13 April 2003 04:42
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Blown86	Sun, 13 April 2003 04:55
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	ae86drift	Sun, 13 April 2003 09:51
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Dodgy_Haro	Sun, 13 April 2003 05:30
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	katsuchiyo	Sun, 13 April 2003 08:52
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	katsuchiyo	Sun, 13 April 2003 12:25
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Cal_AE86	Mon, 14 April 2003 01:32
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Blown86	Mon, 14 April 2003 03:32
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Widowmaker	Mon, 14 April 2003 04:08
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	karade	Mon, 14 April 2003 04:34
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Dodgy_Haro	Mon, 14 April 2003 04:47
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Widowmaker	Mon, 14 April 2003 04:55
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	katsuchiyo	Mon, 14 April 2003 05:46
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	fOOZ86	Mon, 14 April 2003 05:52
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Blown86	Tue, 15 April 2003 11:29
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Widowmaker	Tue, 15 April 2003 11:34
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Blown86	Tue, 15 April 2003 11:51
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Widowmaker	Tue, 15 April 2003 12:08
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	fOOZ86	Tue, 15 April 2003 16:07
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Cal_AE86	Tue, 15 April 2003 23:19
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	fOOZ86	Wed, 16 April 2003 07:32
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	strober	Wed, 16 April 2003 12:23
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	fergo308	Sun, 20 April 2003 10:38
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Widowmaker	Sun, 20 April 2003 10:42
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	pro_ke	Mon, 21 April 2003 13:03
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Widowmaker	Mon, 21 April 2003 13:08
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	EMP-2TG	Mon, 21 April 2003 14:22
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	pro_ke	Mon, 21 April 2003 15:10
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Widowmaker	Mon, 21 April 2003 16:11
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	fergo308	Mon, 21 April 2003 21:08
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	katsuchiyo	Mon, 21 April 2003 15:40
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Blown86	Mon, 21 April 2003 16:28
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Widowmaker	Tue, 22 April 2003 10:12
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Blown86	Tue, 22 April 2003 20:22
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Widowmaker	Tue, 22 April 2003 10:20
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	pro_ke	Mon, 21 April 2003 22:15
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Cal_AE86	Mon, 21 April 2003 23:47
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	ae86drift	Tue, 22 April 2003 09:32
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Intensevil	Tue, 22 April 2003 11:48
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	pro_ke	Tue, 22 April 2003 13:33
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Dodgy_Haro	Tue, 22 April 2003 14:03
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	fOOZ86	Tue, 22 April 2003 16:07
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	LiL_MiC	Tue, 22 April 2003 16:18
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Intensevil	Wed, 23 April 2003 00:53
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	pro_ke	Wed, 23 April 2003 09:12
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	katsuchiyo	Wed, 23 April 2003 07:17
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Dodgy_Haro	Wed, 23 April 2003 16:42
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Blown86	Sat, 26 April 2003 10:50
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	SPEEDCORE	Sat, 26 April 2003 11:05
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Blown86	Sat, 26 April 2003 11:12
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	LiL_MiC	Sun, 27 April 2003 16:18
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	WHITCHY	Sat, 13 March 2004 09:14
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Callifo	Sat, 13 March 2004 12:11
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	Lench	Sat, 13 March 2004 12:20
	Re: RANT: Sprinter owners	net nazi	Sat, 13 March 2004 15:16

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