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RA28 Forums Junkie Registered: May 2002	Re: Holden Cruze Tue, 16 July 2002 10:56 I used to be like all you guys, bitchin about the "Big 2". How shit they were with the gutless, pushrod driven, fuel sucking low revving anchors. Then I realised I was the fool, while I am spending all my energies bitchin', GM and ford are making BILLIONS!!! That's right, carry on all you want but at the end of the day, fords and holdens are a HUGE success, they do exactly what they are supposed to do. They sell. Why they sell doesn't matter, maybe a housewife on a power trip, maybe a yobbo that has had 1 too many beers in his life, maybe just a family that need it to get groceries!!!. Ford and Holden could build good engines if they wanted to. They just don't have to. They will start building better engines when they are pushed into it, not sooner. They are comming around though, the twin cam fords are evidence of that. Holens and fords sell to well for them to bother with performance applications. For the small sector of the community, where performance and technologycount, there's the japenese market, which I see you are all exploiting. So there it is, plain and simple. Get over it peoples and drive fast, drive happy and enjoy the RPM that falcadore drivers are missing out on. Tim. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Holden Cruze	maxdamage75	Wed, 10 July 2002 13:20
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Wed, 10 July 2002 13:23
	Re: Holden Cruze		Thu, 11 July 2002 08:00
	Re: Holden Cruze	Apollo	Sun, 14 July 2002 09:36
	Re: Holden Cruze	SmellyTofu	Thu, 11 July 2002 09:56
	Re: Holden Cruze	Rolla Boy	Thu, 11 July 2002 10:06
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Thu, 11 July 2002 10:59
	Re: Holden Cruze	purpleminiep	Thu, 11 July 2002 11:30
	Re: Holden Cruze	jza70-mel	Thu, 11 July 2002 12:22
	Re: Holden Cruze	Rolla Boy	Thu, 11 July 2002 12:01
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Thu, 11 July 2002 13:01
	Re: Holden Cruze	purpleminiep	Thu, 11 July 2002 13:33
	Re: Holden Cruze	faulksy	Thu, 11 July 2002 14:57
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Thu, 11 July 2002 21:54
	Re: Holden Cruze	HSV_gal	Thu, 11 July 2002 23:20
	Re: Holden Cruze	Redline	Fri, 12 July 2002 00:39
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Fri, 12 July 2002 02:22
	Why that is...	Incredible_Serious	Fri, 12 July 2002 02:35
	Re: Holden Cruze	purpleminiep	Fri, 12 July 2002 03:23
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Fri, 12 July 2002 03:50
	Re: Holden Cruze	HSV_gal	Fri, 12 July 2002 05:11
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Fri, 12 July 2002 05:34
	Re: Holden Cruze	rob_RA40	Fri, 12 July 2002 05:36
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Fri, 12 July 2002 05:37
	Re: Holden Cruze	HSV_gal	Fri, 12 July 2002 05:43
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Fri, 12 July 2002 05:51
	Re: Holden Cruze	HSV_gal	Fri, 12 July 2002 06:00
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Fri, 12 July 2002 06:09
	Re: Holden Cruze	maxdamage75	Fri, 12 July 2002 08:25
	Re: Holden Cruze	Rolla Boy	Fri, 12 July 2002 11:10
	Re: Holden Cruze	lumpy	Fri, 12 July 2002 11:29
	Re: Holden Cruze	maxdamage75	Sun, 14 July 2002 09:44
	Re: Holden Cruze	Classique71	Sun, 14 July 2002 10:05
	Re: Holden Cruze	Sam	Sun, 14 July 2002 10:33
	Re: Holden Cruze	Nark	Mon, 15 July 2002 01:37
	Re: Holden Cruze	Classique71	Mon, 15 July 2002 02:40
	Re: Holden Cruze	jza70-mel	Mon, 15 July 2002 06:44
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Mon, 15 July 2002 07:04
	Re: Holden Cruze	YelloRolla	Mon, 15 July 2002 08:26
	Re: Holden Cruze	maxdamage75	Mon, 15 July 2002 14:01
	Re: Holden Cruze	Nark	Tue, 16 July 2002 01:24
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Tue, 16 July 2002 07:17
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Mon, 15 July 2002 08:51
	Re: Holden Cruze	Classique71	Mon, 15 July 2002 09:21
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Mon, 15 July 2002 09:58
	Re: Holden Cruze	purpleminiep	Mon, 15 July 2002 10:53
	Re: Holden Cruze	biased99	Tue, 16 July 2002 03:18
	Re: Holden Cruze	lumpy	Tue, 16 July 2002 03:46
	Re: Holden Cruze	RA28	Tue, 16 July 2002 10:56
	Re: Holden Cruze	Classique71	Tue, 16 July 2002 12:21
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Tue, 16 July 2002 12:43
	Re: Holden Cruze	Classique71	Tue, 16 July 2002 13:10
	Re: Holden Cruze	maxdamage75	Tue, 16 July 2002 13:23
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Tue, 16 July 2002 23:17
	Re: Holden Cruze	justcallmefrank	Wed, 17 July 2002 02:32
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Wed, 17 July 2002 08:11
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Wed, 17 July 2002 03:13
	Re: Holden Cruze	maxdamage75	Wed, 17 July 2002 04:11
	Re: Holden Cruze	justcallmefrank	Wed, 17 July 2002 03:41
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Wed, 17 July 2002 04:07
	Re: Holden Cruze	justcallmefrank	Wed, 17 July 2002 04:18
	Re: Holden Cruze	maxdamage75	Wed, 17 July 2002 04:23
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Wed, 17 July 2002 04:30
	Re: Holden Cruze	maxdamage75	Wed, 17 July 2002 04:32
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Wed, 17 July 2002 04:35
	Re: Holden Cruze	manipulate	Wed, 17 July 2002 04:36
	Re: Holden Cruze	Cool1	Wed, 17 July 2002 04:37
	Re: Holden Cruze	justcallmefrank	Wed, 17 July 2002 04:42
	Re: Holden Cruze	maxdamage75	Wed, 17 July 2002 23:58
	Re: Holden Cruze	manipulate	Wed, 17 July 2002 04:44
	Re: Holden Cruze	justcallmefrank	Wed, 17 July 2002 04:48
	Re: Holden Cruze	justcallmefrank	Wed, 17 July 2002 04:49
	Re: Holden Cruze	justcallmefrank	Wed, 17 July 2002 08:19
	Re: Holden Cruze	maxdamage75	Wed, 17 July 2002 23:59
	thread has been locked	DannyGT4	Thu, 18 July 2002 10:54

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