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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: Butterfly/Scissor doors
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Wed, 24 September 2003 03:51
 
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On the other side of the coin, there is a heap of work there and I don't thing there is enough strength on the celica pillers to support a door like that. You would need some hefty reinforcing to make it work.
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Not really. the standard hinges on any car door that opens outwards have the maximum lever arm that can be achived.
lifting (scissoring) the door reduces the moment in the pillar,therfore the pillar is fine as long as the pivot point in both the X and Y direction are very close to each other and to the original hinges X position. the problem then is the rotation of the door once open about the Z axis (ie wind blowing into it)
The design of the hinge is based on the standard locations of the hinges and bolt hole locations the both the door and pillar.
making it almost a bolt on modification. the only real weakness is the door itself in relation to the door pivoting about the bolt point which the door wouldn't otherwise be subject to.
The time spent designing (on paper and on CAD) reduces the trial and error stage which is where we nearly gave up!
The hinge itself weighed about 7kg (8mm thick plate!)
and the fabrcation time was about 100 hour per hinge (4 total, 3 trial and error 1 that worked)
the hardest part was comming up with a way of making the window come down when you pull on the door handle (aka convertable Merc)
so to clear the pillar from the glass.
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Butterfly/Scissor doors
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Lambolica | Wed, 24 September 2003 02:56 |
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jezz | Wed, 24 September 2003 03:07 |
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Lambolica | Wed, 24 September 2003 03:08 |
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rob_RA40 | Wed, 24 September 2003 03:09 |
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coronamark2 | Wed, 24 September 2003 03:15 |
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Jason | Wed, 24 September 2003 03:20 |
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gold28 | Wed, 24 September 2003 03:19 |
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SupraPete | Wed, 24 September 2003 03:25 |
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gtman | Wed, 24 September 2003 03:26 |
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Lambolica | Wed, 24 September 2003 03:51 |
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Lambolica | Wed, 24 September 2003 03:54 |
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Allan | Wed, 24 September 2003 03:34 |
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coronamark2 | Wed, 24 September 2003 03:37 |
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gold28 | Wed, 24 September 2003 03:40 |
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SupraPete | Wed, 24 September 2003 04:00 |
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SupraPete | Wed, 24 September 2003 04:01 |
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Lambolica | Wed, 24 September 2003 04:06 |
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draven | Wed, 24 September 2003 04:04 |
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SupraPete | Wed, 24 September 2003 04:21 |
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draven | Wed, 24 September 2003 04:26 |
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Lambolica | Wed, 24 September 2003 04:28 |
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SupraPete | Wed, 24 September 2003 04:31 |
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SupraPete | Wed, 24 September 2003 04:30 |
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gold28 | Wed, 24 September 2003 06:22 |
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Lambolica | Wed, 24 September 2003 06:35 |
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swankiedude | Wed, 24 September 2003 08:37 |
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Lambolica | Wed, 24 September 2003 23:06 |
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SupraPete | Wed, 24 September 2003 23:54 |
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Lambolica | Thu, 25 September 2003 00:02 |
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Lambolica | Thu, 25 September 2003 00:05 |
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SupraPete | Thu, 25 September 2003 00:08 |
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Lambolica | Thu, 25 September 2003 00:19 |
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Lambolica | Thu, 25 September 2003 00:33 |
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Youngy | Thu, 25 September 2003 00:15 |
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gold28 | Thu, 25 September 2003 00:17 |
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gold28 | Thu, 25 September 2003 01:23 |
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Lambolica | Thu, 25 September 2003 02:01 |
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gold28 | Thu, 25 September 2003 04:13 |
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Lambolica | Thu, 25 September 2003 04:44 |
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gold28 | Thu, 25 September 2003 05:25 |
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Lambolica | Thu, 25 September 2003 05:59 |
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gold28 | Thu, 25 September 2003 06:05 |
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Lambolica | Thu, 25 September 2003 06:20 |
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draven | Thu, 25 September 2003 09:39 |
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STR8 2.8 | Thu, 25 September 2003 11:29 |
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swankiedude | Thu, 25 September 2003 12:41 |
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Nark | Fri, 26 September 2003 00:14 |
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SupraPete | Thu, 25 September 2003 23:46 |
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gold28 | Fri, 26 September 2003 00:08 |
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gold28 | Fri, 26 September 2003 00:24 |
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Lambolica | Fri, 26 September 2003 01:07 |
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SupraPete | Fri, 26 September 2003 01:35 |
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gold28 | Fri, 26 September 2003 03:46 |
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inertia | Fri, 26 September 2003 08:42 |
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feral4mr2 | Fri, 26 September 2003 09:25 |
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Lambolica | Sun, 28 September 2003 22:54 |
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justcallmefrank | Mon, 29 September 2003 02:28 |
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Lambolica | Mon, 29 September 2003 03:38 |
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speakafreaka | Mon, 29 September 2003 09:43 |
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speakafreaka | Mon, 29 September 2003 09:43 |
