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Re: University quals vs TAFE quals

Mon, 20 October 2003 07:12

Cool1 wrote on Mon, 20 October 2003 16:23

HKSPete wrote on Mon, 20 October 2003 15:35

Cool1 wrote on Mon, 20 October 2003 14:51

I throught this debate was about electronics/electrical engineering Rolling Eyes

You kept referring to a TRADE. Is electrical engineering a trade? Do you need to do an apprenticeship to become an Electrical engineer tradesman?

You do need to an apprenticeship to become an electrical engineering tradesman, however you dont have to do an apprenticeship to be come an electrical engineer!
I'm doing a doctorate to become an Electronics tradesman engineer!
There are various types of engineering courses available, but I choose to do the doctorate but you can also do the bachelor or just the plain engineering.
Hope thats clear?

WHOA!!

I really find it horrible the way that the term, "Engineer" is being used so loosely here, and by TAFE's. To me an engineer is a professional, who is well trained in the academic, social and technical aspects of their field of study.
An engineer to me is NOT someone who has a crapload of technical expertise - they are a technician. Note the derivative of the word.

Lets take the example of myself, studying Telecommunications Engineering at the University of Technology, Sydney... and a friend of mine studying Telecommunications Engineering at TAFE.

We have discussed various aspects of our courses, and it's clear that at TAFE there is more concentration on the technical and real world aspects of the field, whereas at uni we concentrate on ALL aspects of the field - so that any graduate has the ability to work in any aspect of the given field with a level of expertise and experience.

I should also have you note that in order to complete my Bachelor of Engineering, i am required to do a MINIMUM of 46 weeks of FULL TIME work as an engineer split into two parts across my degree. IE i have to get a job, TWICE.

My friend doesn't do any topics such as Engineering for Sustainability, Engineering Communications, Uncertainties and Risks in Engineering (need i go on).... whereas i don't get to do all the indepth fancy prac's, nor play with some of the high end technical equipment etc, unless i chose to as electives etc.

Basically, uni engineering teahces the whole thing, with less focus on the actual technical stuff.
TAFE teaches you nearly everything about the technical stuff, and less of the rest.

well thats in my experience anyway.

[Updated on: Mon, 20 October 2003 07:16]

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