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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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Re: University quals vs TAFE quals
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Sun, 16 November 2003 20:00
 
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geez, this descended into a shit-fight for a while 
well, i have a degree in metallurgy. for me to be employed by an australian company as a Metallurgist, doing metallurgy things requires me to have maybe 5-10 years experience as a metallurgist, which i can't get as i won't get a job without experience.
the foundry i did my industrial training at (6 months) during my degree, had 6 metallurgists working the shit floor jobs. one was from poland and his last job was BUILDING foundries from the foundations up!! but still he couldn't land a metallurgy job in OZ.
when i get my PhD (ahh the Ramones )i will be virtually unemployable in australia as a metallurgist as i will be 'over-qualified' even tho without it i am 'under-experienced'.
so i pretty much have two choices.
1) stay within the uni system doing post-doctorate research
2) go and work in another country for a couple of years, then come back and get a job as a metallurgist here...
thing is tho, if i stay doing uni research (with no academic aspirations) i stay on a reasonably good, but static pay level, which i would not reach as a production metallurgist within 5 or 10 years (after i get the 5-10 years exp )
anyhoo, getting a degree is not the bees knees of getting jobs, it really depends on how specialised you are. me? i'm too specialised (high temp corrosion), but i know a bit about virtually anything to do with metals and materials processing.
what i probably will do is go and hang around a few race workshops and apply my degree there, even tho not as an 'engineer' as such..
oh, and 'engineer' used to mean the job of a 'professional' (and not the worlds oldest profession  ) which also meant you had to be part of a 'professional organisation' and technically, without membership of one of them (like IMEA, or whatever) then you aren't a professional and not an engineer, with our without a degree....
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If you want to earn more than $35k a year, then you'll need a university degree.
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well, some of my friends earn way more... Perl programmer (no degree)=$240K in contract work, 'international business consultant' (some random business degree)=$300K+,
shift metallurgist $25-30k 
hmmmmmmmmmm
[Updated on: Sun, 16 November 2003 20:10]
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