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BlackSupra Forums Junkie Registered: August 2002	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo Mon, 17 November 2003 05:35 SUPRA MAN wrote on Mon, 17 November 2003 15:28 Black Supra---> So you think the W58 is only worth as much as the R154 brand new ? I'm sure Toyota would disagree with you. So im glad you have excepted the theory as to their second hand worth. As to their new price i am unable to coment because i have no idea how much it would cost to buy a brand spanking new box from toyota. It would be as silly as buying a brand new 2JZGTE from toyota aswell. I would hazard a guess that their wholesale price variance isn't too great, yet the retail figure would be something alot less desirable for both boxes. If it was a comparison between the 2J W58 and the 1JZ R154 (for fair comparison sake age wise), id say it would be close, but the R154 would probably be more expensive, yes. The bottom line is, the thread 'hijack' was purely to make potential buyers aware that the W58 can be used behind a 1J quite succesfully and you didn't really need to put the comments forward to hamper his sale. We aren't arguing here, there was at no stage a mention that the W58 was a better box than the R154. As previously mentioned by JCMF, the W58 is overengineered and capable of handling the extra power from conversions. Roland: Good luck with the sale buddy, consider all these free bumps and a bit of clarity on the subject for the sale. Sorry if this has pissed you off at all. thats enough of me now. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	1jzgte/w58 combo	quick 6	Wed, 12 November 2003 08:43
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	STR8 2.8	Thu, 13 November 2003 01:07
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	BlackSupra	Thu, 13 November 2003 08:53
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	quick 6	Thu, 13 November 2003 09:06
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	7M-Brisbane	Fri, 14 November 2003 07:49
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	quick 6	Sun, 16 November 2003 11:26
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	SUPRA MAN	Mon, 17 November 2003 01:12
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	SUPRA MAN	Mon, 17 November 2003 03:49
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	BlackSupra	Mon, 17 November 2003 03:55
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	speakafreaka	Sat, 22 November 2003 05:43
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	rvrolla	Sat, 29 November 2003 03:51
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	SUPRA MAN	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:21
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	Celia-Sue	Mon, 17 November 2003 06:23
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	Manny	Mon, 17 November 2003 08:50
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	BlackSupra	Mon, 17 November 2003 01:17
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	Norbie	Mon, 17 November 2003 02:01
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	SUPRA MAN	Mon, 17 November 2003 03:29
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	Norbie	Mon, 17 November 2003 03:36
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	SUPRA MAN	Mon, 17 November 2003 03:38
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	gianttomato	Mon, 17 November 2003 23:52
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	ed_ma61	Tue, 18 November 2003 02:31
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	rob_RA40	Tue, 18 November 2003 03:48
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	SUPRA MAN	Tue, 18 November 2003 00:13
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	BlackSupra	Mon, 17 November 2003 03:37
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	justcallmefrank	Mon, 17 November 2003 03:50
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	SUPRA MAN	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:14
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	BlackSupra	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:24
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	SUPRA MAN	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:28
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	BlackSupra	Mon, 17 November 2003 05:35
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	justcallmefrank	Mon, 17 November 2003 03:51
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	Cyber-punk	Mon, 17 November 2003 03:56
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	BlackSupra	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:00
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	rob_RA40	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:01
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	justcallmefrank	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:04
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	Norbie	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:19
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	truenosedan	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:29
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	SUPRA MAN	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:33
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	Norbie	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:30
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	truenosedan	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:40
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	truenosedan	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:48
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	justcallmefrank	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:52
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	ehendrikd	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:53
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	justcallmefrank	Mon, 17 November 2003 04:56
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	Norbie	Mon, 17 November 2003 10:38
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	SUPRA MAN	Mon, 17 November 2003 10:46
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	Norbie	Mon, 17 November 2003 11:17
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	SUPRA MAN	Mon, 17 November 2003 11:20
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	quick 6	Mon, 17 November 2003 10:39
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	SUPRA MAN	Mon, 17 November 2003 10:49
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	quick 6	Mon, 17 November 2003 11:03
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	Norbie	Mon, 17 November 2003 11:25
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	SUPRA MAN	Mon, 17 November 2003 11:36
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	Chris Davey	Mon, 17 November 2003 12:49
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	justcallmefrank	Mon, 17 November 2003 13:03
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	Danish	Tue, 18 November 2003 00:46
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	CrAiGzEE	Tue, 18 November 2003 06:18
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	quick 6	Tue, 18 November 2003 09:18
	Re: 1jzgte/w58 combo	Danish	Sat, 29 November 2003 04:32

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