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Re: Bathurst 24 Hour Tue, 25 November 2003 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Jeez, can you say 'tall poppy'? Have a think about the cars it is built to compete against, only the Porsche is anywhere near a 'production car'. These were its competitiors in Class A:

Ferrari 360 GT - US$389,500/410,000 (AU$540,972 / 569,000)
30 produced, specifically for the track
roadandtrack.com:
"So what kind of person buys a 360 GT? For starters, you'll have to have your sights set on competing in the FIA N-GT and ACO championships in 2002 and 2003. Also, don't be surprised to see the car running at Le Mans next year, or even in the ALMS (American Le Mans Series)"
ferrariworld.com:
"The 360 GT derives from the 360 Challenge and is destined to compete on the GT race circuit. There are two versions of the model, one conforming to FIA N-GT and the other to ACO/Le Mans specifications."

Lamborghini Diablo GTR - US$390,000 ( AU$430,000 )
Also 30 produced, for a one make series.
lamborghiniregistry.com:
" Now, to meet the request of the passionate driver participating in the Lamborghini Supertrophy, the House of the Bull is presenting the Lamborghini Diablo GTR, a car based on the Diablo GT... most important features are a modified chassis frame with integrated roll bar, improved suspensions, central fixing nut for the rims, race braking system...exhaust system without catalyser.."
'..windows were replaced with Plexiglass units.. the isolation between the driver and the engine was also removed to gain even more weight reduction';

Porsche GT3 RS
200 produced, road version legal in Europe, not sure about here. Forget race version. Price for race version?
'The road version of Porsche's new top sports car has various technical features that will also appear on the racing version.. wheel hub assemblies, divided front-and rear lateral suspension control arms, optimized rear-axle geometry, a special weight-saving rear window made of acrylic material and a carbon-fiber reinforced front hood and rear wing.'

BMW M3 GTR
5 in existence? - US$470,000 (AU$652,000) Shocked
road and track:
'The M3's V-8 is not a version of the engine that powers BMW street cars. It's a racing motor designed by the... BMW Motorsport branch'
'As the rules require, it's based on the stock M3 body shell. But by the time BMW has added safety-cage bars, new suspension bits, carbon-fiber bodywork, front and rear wings, and a data-acquisition system, the GTR is far closer to a purpose-built race car than a street car'

Mosler MT900R
Ready to Club Race - US$149,000
Ready to Race Grand-Am GTS Class - US$159,000
mosler site:
'The MT900R is delivered to your team race ready. Allow 120 days from order to delivery.'
'proven performance on the track make the MT900R the car to beat in Grand Am GT class racing'
If you want to drive on the road, you get the MT900S.

And yet people are still b!tching about the Monaro being a race car, havin nothing to do with a CV8!!
The difference is in the experience and professionalism of the V8 supercar team that runs the monaros.
John Bowe (M3 GTR - crashed out on lap 151 of 527) is hardly a bloke to pat Holden on the back. But on sunday arvo he said:
'I think Bathurst is such a difficult race and everybody but the Holden team underestimated what is required to win.'

No, the monaro is not a production car. But neither is anything else in its class. They are all hand-made racing cars. Sorry about the ramble..

Oh, and the altezza sounded wicked, as did all 427ci of monaro (x2) Very Happy +the 2 celicas were amazing, they just hammered around in convoy for pretty much the whole damn race!

edit: any percieved harshness aimed at no-one in particular Smile

[Updated on: Tue, 25 November 2003 12:01]

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