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Nark Forums Junkie Location: Cabramatta, NSW Registered: May 2002	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE Thu, 01 August 2002 04:00 TOYO3T wrote on Thu, 01 August 2002 1:11 PM There are stock 1ggte's that would OWN you. I love it when people get all narky when defending thier cars. Was that a subliminal reference to me? You don't need new turbos to be making that power. My car matched a 1UZ-FE (194kW from the factory) at the last dyno day and my engine is stock. Using the same drivetrain loss would put Darren's old engine (stock turbos running 14psi) at over 230kW. Power is power, but when you're pulling an xA70, you need torque. Power figures are pretty irrelevant unless you're on the track. As for the weight thing, an MA61 will not weigh 1250kg. My RA60 weighs 1220kg with half a tank! An MA61 would be closer to 1400kg. An MA70 would be about 1700kg. As for looks, it's personal opinion. I think the MA61 is the tuffest-looking Toyota ever made. xA70s are nice, but I'd never have one, it's just too heavy. I like to chuck my cars around, and it's just too scary to do with heavy cars. And can we all behave. Keep it civilised, no more personal attacks or else I have to get nasty. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	1jz vs 7M-GTE	disco stu	Mon, 29 July 2002 07:03
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Nark	Mon, 29 July 2002 07:37
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	mx83toy	Mon, 29 July 2002 07:53
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	gianttomato	Mon, 29 July 2002 08:19
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Corvid	Mon, 29 July 2002 08:27
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Norbie	Mon, 29 July 2002 08:18
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Helmann	Mon, 29 July 2002 08:30
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Norbie	Mon, 29 July 2002 08:45
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	SUPRAGTE	Mon, 29 July 2002 09:16
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	mx83toy	Mon, 29 July 2002 09:32
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	gianttomato	Mon, 29 July 2002 09:42
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Norbie	Mon, 29 July 2002 23:57
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Tue, 30 July 2002 00:36
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Allan	Tue, 30 July 2002 01:53
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Norbie	Tue, 30 July 2002 02:37
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Corvid	Tue, 30 July 2002 03:09
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Tue, 30 July 2002 03:23
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Norbie	Tue, 30 July 2002 04:37
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	gianttomato	Tue, 30 July 2002 04:55
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Tue, 30 July 2002 04:54
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Tue, 30 July 2002 04:59
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Norbie	Tue, 30 July 2002 07:22
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Tue, 30 July 2002 12:34
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	SUPRA MAN	Tue, 30 July 2002 12:50
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	gianttomato	Tue, 30 July 2002 13:19
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Norbie	Wed, 31 July 2002 02:45
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	SUPRA MAN	Thu, 01 August 2002 01:56
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Tue, 30 July 2002 15:05
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Wed, 31 July 2002 03:09
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	ed_ma61	Thu, 01 August 2002 02:13
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	SUPRA MAN	Thu, 01 August 2002 02:33
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE		Thu, 01 August 2002 03:11
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	SUPRA MAN	Thu, 01 August 2002 03:24
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Nark	Thu, 01 August 2002 04:00
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	SUPRA MAN	Thu, 01 August 2002 04:19
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	gianttomato	Thu, 01 August 2002 04:23
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	mr supra	Thu, 01 August 2002 05:04
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	mr supra	Thu, 01 August 2002 05:17
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	ed_ma61	Thu, 01 August 2002 02:49
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	SUPRA MAN	Thu, 01 August 2002 03:02
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Thu, 01 August 2002 05:07
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Thu, 01 August 2002 05:32
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE		Thu, 01 August 2002 05:52
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Thu, 01 August 2002 06:00
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Thu, 01 August 2002 06:03
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE		Thu, 01 August 2002 06:09
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Thu, 01 August 2002 06:18
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	mr supra	Thu, 01 August 2002 07:26
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Norbie	Thu, 01 August 2002 07:43
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE		Thu, 01 August 2002 07:50
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Thu, 01 August 2002 07:50
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	duckman	Thu, 01 August 2002 09:27
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	ed_ma61	Thu, 01 August 2002 08:03
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Dabbid	Thu, 01 August 2002 08:49
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	gianttomato	Thu, 01 August 2002 23:35
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Nark	Fri, 02 August 2002 01:26
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	gianttomato	Fri, 02 August 2002 02:17
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	mr supra	Thu, 01 August 2002 08:20
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Thu, 01 August 2002 08:20
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	justcallmefrank	Thu, 01 August 2002 09:39
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	lumpy	Thu, 01 August 2002 09:45
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	zorro	Thu, 01 August 2002 17:04
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE		Thu, 01 August 2002 22:55
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	1jwunder	Fri, 02 August 2002 05:06
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Dabbid	Sat, 03 August 2002 05:47
	Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	gianttomato	Sat, 03 August 2002 08:17

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