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Re: 1jz vs 7M-GTE	Thu, 01 August 2002 08:03

um...ok... trying not to make this personal... FACTORY dry weight as specified by Toyota: sure, it's going to be different to real world weight (usually an underestimate) but is a starting ground for comparisons: MA61: 1265 kg MA70: 1570 kg to get equal power to weight ratio between the cars, you'd have to run a 24.11% more powerful engine in the MA70. lets just completely forget about torque (like people love to sometimes) for a moment, and look at hp only. so to compete with a stock standard 230hp 7mgte in a ma61, the ma70 would require a 285.5hp engine. Now its taken someone here a crapload of money to get 272hp (apparently) out of a 1ggte. spend that same money on a 7mgte in a ma61, and then decide who's been pissing their money in the wind. fine, you might argue the ma70 is a nicer looking car, more modern etc etc, but to lead your argument with 'why waste your money, buy a real supra', followed up with 'ive got a kick arse 1ggte, watch me fly', and summed up with, 'dont hassle me, youve only got an ma61' and youre not earning yourself any credability. basically if youve modded your car to the shithouse, dont attempt to compare it to stock. and dont expect were all so stupid as to go oohh ahhh. [Report message to a moderator]

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