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Re: Octane Booster???? Thu, 01 August 2002 12:05 Go to previous message
thermodynamics is such a long long way away in my head these days... but i do remember the carnot cycle of heat engines:

and i quote:

The Carnot cycle is a four step process involving two isothermal processes (which are said to be ideal reversible processes) at the temperatures Th and Tc and two adiabatic processes (ie, without heat transfer) which operate between those two temperatures. In the isothermal steps, there is no change in internal energy and the heat exchanged is equal to the work done. In the two adiabatic processes, there is no heat exchanged. No such system can ever be built - since it is an idealized process (the two isothermal steps being reversible and quasistatic which means, in effect, they occur infinitely slowly). The importance of the process is that it gives an upper limit to the efficiency of any cyclic process between the same two temperatures.


be damned if i can remember what that upper limit is tho wrt interal combustion engines.

also wrt the original post question, what your suggesting has basically been done with water/methanol injectors: used to prevent detonation at high boost levels, or to run higher compression in engines not otherwise designed to do so. methanol has a ron of about 112 or 115, + cools the intake charge, and the water helps lower combustion temp, also reducung detonation.

so, yes, you can use an injected octane booster (in conjunction with other strategies) to produce more power, not quite how you anticipated i suspect though Rolling

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