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bored Occasional Poster Location: Sydney Registered: July 2002	Re: Good for a laugh Fri, 02 August 2002 08:32 Ok, to anyone with even a little understanding of thermodynamics and fluid flow, this idea is a complete joke. Fortunately, there are some sane Toymods members who have explained why, yet some people persist in their foolishness. Hence I will re-cap why this is one of the most moronic ideas ever. Intercoolers can only cool the air down to ambient temperature. (okay, I know you can run a water-to-air cooler with ice, or liquid nitrogen or whatever, but that is a separate issue, as such devices can only cool for a short period of time, until their thermal reservoir becomes saturated) Since a normal intercooler can only cool to ambient temperature, it CANNOT REDUCE THE TEMPERATURE OF INCOMING AIR unless that incoming air is at higher than ambient temperature. If it is not exceedingly clear at this point, any car with a decent cold air intake system will have it's intake air very close to ambient temperature. Hence an intercooler will be unable to provide any benefit on a naturally aspirated car. Moreover, as already mentioned, the intercooler would present a flow restriction to the air intake, which would have the effect or REDUCING POWER. -- /end seriousness -- So, if you are a serious rice boy, I highly recommend the installation of a large aftermarket intercooler in the front of your car, and please, don't forget to add a blow-off valve, and since your car is NA, why don't you buy a plumback one, and hook it up with the normal outlet onto the plenum chamber after the throttle body. This will give you that wonderful pssst sound you're after whenever you lift off the throttle. Due to the increased power this will generate, your car will take much longer to low down from high rpm, and in some cases, your rpms might even rise (!!!) after you let off the throttle. This is a sign of a TRULY POWERFUL naturally aspirated engine. On MAF equipped cars, we recommend "venting" your blow-off valve directly to the atmosphere. This will prevent your car from wasting fuel at idle, and will increase the loudness of your blow-off valve. Your car will turn heads at every gear change. While you're at it, why don't you get one of those wonderful electronic superchargers known as "turbo zet"'s?! If you install one of these, and a "Bleed valve", they are capable of producing up to 30psi of boost ELECTRONICALLY! Turbo Zet: http://web.singnet.com.sg/~racer/ I can't wait to do all this stuff to my pride and joy... if I can ever afford it. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Good for a laugh	bored	Wed, 31 July 2002 23:49
	Re: Good for a laugh	SXer	Thu, 01 August 2002 02:58
	Re: Good for a laugh	GIN51E	Thu, 01 August 2002 04:33
	Re: Good for a laugh	IRA11Y	Thu, 01 August 2002 06:01
	Re: Good for a laugh	GIN51E	Thu, 01 August 2002 07:10
	Re: Good for a laugh	justcallmefrank	Thu, 01 August 2002 07:28
	Re: Good for a laugh	Fattony	Thu, 01 August 2002 07:58
	Re: Good for a laugh	GIN51E	Thu, 01 August 2002 09:39
	Re: Good for a laugh		Thu, 01 August 2002 08:03
	Re: Good for a laugh	4RS_FED	Thu, 01 August 2002 10:20
	Re: Good for a laugh	Apollo	Thu, 01 August 2002 11:08
	Re: Good for a laugh	ed_ma61	Thu, 01 August 2002 12:13
	Re: Good for a laugh	Apollo	Thu, 01 August 2002 12:31
	Re: Good for a laugh	SXer	Thu, 01 August 2002 22:25
	Re: Good for a laugh	Esteban	Thu, 01 August 2002 22:26
	Re: Good for a laugh	GIN51E	Thu, 01 August 2002 22:41
	Re: Good for a laugh	[TOYROTA]	Thu, 01 August 2002 23:21
	Re: Good for a laugh	GIN51E	Thu, 01 August 2002 23:25
	Re: Good for a laugh	IRA11Y	Thu, 01 August 2002 23:36
	Re: Good for a laugh	bored	Fri, 02 August 2002 08:32
	Re: Good for a laugh	GIN51E	Fri, 02 August 2002 09:22
	Re: Good for a laugh	IRA11Y	Fri, 02 August 2002 12:16
	Re: Good for a laugh	bored	Sat, 03 August 2002 00:47
	Re: Good for a laugh	IRA11Y	Sat, 03 August 2002 05:50
	Re: Good for a laugh	GIN51E	Sat, 03 August 2002 07:25
	Re: Good for a laugh	bored	Sat, 03 August 2002 08:50
	Re: Good for a laugh	GIN51E	Sat, 03 August 2002 09:15
	Re: Good for a laugh	bored	Sat, 03 August 2002 13:11
	Re: Good for a laugh	GIN51E	Sat, 03 August 2002 23:32
	Re: Good for a laugh	[TOYROTA]	Fri, 02 August 2002 00:03
	Re: Good for a laugh	Sam	Fri, 02 August 2002 00:10
	Re: Good for a laugh	[TOYROTA]	Fri, 02 August 2002 00:17
	Re: Good for a laugh	rob_RA40	Sat, 03 August 2002 06:06
	Re: Good for a laugh	Esteban	Mon, 05 August 2002 01:19
	Re: Good for a laugh	RobertoX	Mon, 05 August 2002 01:51
	Re: Good for a laugh	Sam	Mon, 05 August 2002 02:22
	Re: Good for a laugh	RobertoX	Tue, 06 August 2002 00:26
	Re: Good for a laugh	Sam	Tue, 06 August 2002 00:56
	Re: Good for a laugh	RobertoX	Tue, 06 August 2002 01:19
	Re: Good for a laugh	GIN51E	Tue, 06 August 2002 02:50
	Re: Good for a laugh	IRA11Y	Tue, 06 August 2002 06:06
	Re: Good for a laugh	[TOYROTA]	Tue, 06 August 2002 23:37
	Re: Good for a laugh	RobertoX	Tue, 06 August 2002 23:54

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