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Re: Where is my BOV Kristan???

Sat, 20 December 2003 16:01

Astroboy007 wrote on Sat, 20 December 2003 06:15

i have no problem with tristan, the guy who ripped me off is CLG

i have pm'd him on several occasions to which he denies everything and now said shutup or you will suffer my consequences....he seems pretty scary, lol

i just want what i paid for

Toymodders, and Astroboy007/Wayne,

I feel inclined to publicly vent my frustation with you and your disparaging remarks towards your purchase from me. To those that have read or don't know, Wayne bought an RA60 Bodykit from me recently.

The body kit was part of a car I have been wrecking for parts and was and still is advertised in the Parts For Sale Section here on Toymods ("Wrecking: RA60 Hatchback"). I had several replies for the bodykit, and as a result posted photos which show the body kit while still attached to the car, which can still be accessed to this day. As the replies and interest for the bodykit ranged from both local, interstate and overseas inquiries, and considering the close range of reply times, I thought it best and fair to sell this item as a silent auction. While I feel Wayne misunderstood the meaning of a silent auction, I also feel I made my intentions clear in both public and private emails, thread posts and PM's, not only to him, but everyone else interested in the bodykit sale. Within those emails and PM's, I made mention of the fact the bodykit was made from chop mat fibreglass, had been painted black, and would need work to reinstall it back onto a car.

I gave a guide as to what I felt the body kit was worth, the side skirts for $200, and rear diffuser for $150. Following contact from Wayne where he offered his thoughts on the bodykit's value, and also asking around for prices, I corrected my figures to $100 for the side skirts and $50 for the diffuser, and asked the interested parties to bid around those prices, if it suited them. This infomation was sent by email which allowed better resolution photos and also included another 8 photos of the bodykit showing better detail, this time washed and cleaned. Wayne responded with an offer of $150 plus postage for the kit, and this was the only offer I recieved in the time I offered the bodykit for sale. I subsequently recieved a higher offer after I had agreed to sell the body kit to him, but held to my agreement to honour his initial offer.

I forwarded Wayne my bank account details for him to deposit the money both for payment and postage, and recieved a reply shortly after this stating he had deposited the money, and that he trusted I would now send the body kit, this was approximately Monday(1/12) or Tuesday (2/12). While the wording was coarse in nature, I understood his concern about buying items from interstate, and dismissed his demeanour as simply anxious - I have since found out both publically and privately this is not the case. The bodykit was actually removed on Wednesday night (3/12) before any payment was received, as Wayne was anxious to have it posted. The fender sections and side skirts came off cleanly, and were photograhed for representation. The rear diffuser was also removed by both paring away the side sections that were fibreglassed onto the rear quarter panels and also by removing the screws holding it to the rear bumper. the diffuser was then seperated into it's three seperate cast componets by removing the filler covering pop rivets, drilling the pop rivets out and laying the diffuser returns flat for packing. This item now in three sections was also photographed for identification, due to Wayne's demanding nature - I wanted a record of what I would send him. The bodykit was boxed in a cardboard box I made especially for it's postage and was fully sealed. the kit was packed firmly, but not so tight as to cause breakage during post, it's dimension were approximately 1600mm x 500mm x 300mm, and weighed 12Kgs approximately. I checked my account to find no such deposit made, and notified him so. He subsequently told me he had left two digits off my account number, and while his bank had deducted the money from his account, it had not reached mine for obvious reasons when last I checked on Friday night(5/12/03). The money was in my account when I checked again Saturday 6/12/03, however I now had to wait till Monday morning (8/12)to post the bodykit off, to which it was done so.

I recieved a PM from Wayne on Thursday 11/12/03, informing me the body kit hadn't yet arrived, to which I replied. I believe he recieved it Monday 15/12, but received no confirmation from him on this, or subsequent infomation from him directly.

The next contact I had with Wayne was publically in the forums, which for several times has susequently been altered by the moderators for it's "personal attack" against me. I sent him a PM, asking if he had a problem, as I was in the dark as to why he had posted the comments. He informed my that the body kit had arrived broken, and was not what he asked for. He stated he wouldn't have offered as much for it if he had known the kit was not a bolt on style kit, but actually the fibreglassed fixing unit he received, and accused me of misrepresenting the bodykit. I replied stating that the kit was packed adequately to not break, the kit was clearly visable as a fibrglassed unit in all photos presented, and I had taken the greatest care I could in it's removal. His reply to my response again was not favourable, and at this time I made the comment that I would take action on his statements made against me, as I felt they were unfair, and unjust according to laws of slander, forum rules and common decency. I have since reported several of Wayne's posts, which have all been altered by moderators as mentioned above.

I have been a member of the Toymods forum for a little over twelve months now, and will happily admit to buying and selling many items on the classified sections, I find it one of the best area on the web to do so. In that time and involving hundreds of transactions, I have only ever had 1 problem with some thing I have bought, and 1 problem with something I have sold (I received a PM last night about a set of extractors I recently sold, that have found to have a warped flange - I've happily responded to the posters PM, and will happily work with him to resolve the situation). I value my reputation here and respect others who do the same for themselves. I will happily admit and agree to making biting comments to posts I feel are erroneous or vague, or post that generally miss the mark of their intended recipients, however no more than others also present here. I am happy to rest on my reputation, and the fact I have previously, and will continue to do so in the future, offer to have goods returned from people who have purchased items, only to have their situation change, or find the part is not suitable. Having said this, the offer to have Wayne return the bodykit, is very much rescinded after his actions over the last week or so - a statement I have made previously to him. I do feel Wayne has over reacted to the whole situation, I feel he has wanted a bodykit ready to install for $150, however will also make mention of the fact that a friend recendly paid nearly $400 just to have a front spoiler supplied and fitted to a Celica.

A quck word of thanks who've supported me after I've asked yet more questions while this all goes on, those who've posted support, and those I've spoken to regarding this matter.

So, appologies: Wayne, if you feel I have personally attacked you in this post - I apologise. The Toymods board, if either of you feel I have broken any of the rules regarding forums posts, I apologise and please feel free to make any neccesary changes as you all see fit. Caledwvech, I apologise for the long winded thread hijack, however I'm growing tired of the "astroboy onslaught", and to all the Toymodders who've had to put up with my post in defending myself publically, rather than using the appropriate avenue, I apologise.

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