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smt_007 Forums Junkie Location: Sydney Registered: September 2003	Re: Which Petrol is better Mon, 29 December 2003 09:01 CamryMan wrote on Sun, 28 December 2003 21:34 Well after using Optimax exclusively for 20,000km my injectors needed to be sonically clean again. Other people have had other gripes about Optimax on this forum in the past. When I spoke with a Toyota parts person he reckoned the spark plugs on his bike kept fouling up using Optimax. But he doesn't have this problem with the Mobil 8000 or BP Ultimate. His preference was with the Mobil 8000 so that was what I ended up sticking with. My car also runs worse when running optimax, the car feels a lot more sluggish like its choking with optimax. I normally use vortex gold cause i have a caltex near by and it gives me the best response where the engine runs smoother throughout the revs. Shell optimax is also crap on my motorbike, it really feels like the engine is chocking then i put in vortex and its like a new motorbike reving smoothly to 18,000 rpm, i found out shell optimax fouls up most motorbike's spark plugs and there was a media release warning motorbike owners on using optimax. I will have to try BP & Mobil and see how i go. FROM WRX FORUMS Vortex is 95 RON not 96 as someone stated.. Vortex does NOT have Ethanol in is nore does any of CALTEX fuels and it does on the pumps say these words. CALTEX FUELS CONTAINS NO ETHANOL AND IS 100% CALTEX CONTROLED Vortex WILL be in 98 RON in the next six months I know this as i own a CALTEX x3 As for the 03 WRX well unfortunatley Caltex is not upto the Subaru requiremnets as its not enough octane but will not hurt it if only a couple of tanks were used.. 02 WRX and before unless you have aftermarket ECUs there is no benefit of using a higher octane fuel.. we have done many a tests on this and proven it will do nothing for the power of the car... Most people will notice a more responsive and smoother driving but that has nothing to do with the OCTANE rating. more to do with the addtives added to the fuel.. i have an 02 WRX making 170+ kw@wheels and use VORTEX with no problems.. next month i will be getting it retuned as i have put a GT400 turbo (previously had a VF22) so i am hoping for over 180kw@4wheels and still will be tuned with VORTEX 95 RON fuel Dont be fooled by OCTANE ratings.. Power and drivablilty has more to do with the make up of the fuel rather then OCTANE.. Shell has done a great job in making people believe OCTANE is the be all of power Troy [Updated on: Mon, 29 December 2003 09:24] [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Which Petrol is better	rollin	Wed, 24 December 2003 16:04
	Re: Which Petrol is better	DiZ_	Thu, 25 December 2003 00:01
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Shraka	Thu, 25 December 2003 00:07
	Re: Which Petrol is better	thug_immortal	Thu, 25 December 2003 00:13
	Re: Which Petrol is better	onejayzed	Mon, 29 December 2003 05:54
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Soarer	Thu, 25 December 2003 00:28
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Classique71	Thu, 25 December 2003 00:30
	Re: Which Petrol is better	thug_immortal	Thu, 25 December 2003 01:53
	Re: Which Petrol is better	ed_ma61	Thu, 25 December 2003 02:52
	Re: Which Petrol is better	SEXY 16	Thu, 25 December 2003 03:55
	Re: Which Petrol is better	4DaDrift	Thu, 25 December 2003 05:10
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Ozzie	Thu, 25 December 2003 05:18
	Re: Which Petrol is better	7M-Brisbane	Thu, 25 December 2003 05:48
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Simon-AE86	Thu, 25 December 2003 06:06
	Re: Which Petrol is better	speakafreaka	Sat, 27 December 2003 04:48
	Re: Which Petrol is better	rollin	Thu, 25 December 2003 06:47
	Re: Which Petrol is better	4DaDrift	Thu, 25 December 2003 08:03
	Re: Which Petrol is better	CrUZsida	Thu, 25 December 2003 13:16
	Re: Which Petrol is better	faulksy	Thu, 25 December 2003 23:16
	Re: Which Petrol is better	justcallmefrank	Fri, 26 December 2003 01:30
	Re: Which Petrol is better	faulksy	Fri, 26 December 2003 04:08
	Re: Which Petrol is better	justcallmefrank	Fri, 26 December 2003 11:26
	Re: Which Petrol is better	manipulate	Fri, 26 December 2003 09:11
	Re: Which Petrol is better	ZZT231	Fri, 26 December 2003 10:34
	Re: Which Petrol is better	rollin	Fri, 26 December 2003 13:25
	Re: Which Petrol is better	SupraPete	Sat, 27 December 2003 06:42
	Re: Which Petrol is better	manipulate	Sat, 27 December 2003 06:55
	Re: Which Petrol is better	7M-Brisbane	Sat, 27 December 2003 16:59
	Re: Which Petrol is better	SupraPete	Sun, 28 December 2003 00:24
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Shraka	Sun, 28 December 2003 00:35
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Rolla Boy	Sun, 28 December 2003 01:27
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Shraka	Sun, 28 December 2003 14:18
	Re: Which Petrol is better	CamryMan	Sun, 28 December 2003 10:34
	Re: Which Petrol is better	smt_007	Mon, 29 December 2003 09:01
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Nark	Mon, 29 December 2003 13:16
	Re: Which Petrol is better	ae86drift	Sun, 28 December 2003 11:10
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Draza	Sun, 28 December 2003 11:21
	Re: Which Petrol is better	manipulate	Sun, 28 December 2003 14:39
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Shraka	Sun, 28 December 2003 14:43
	Re: Which Petrol is better	manipulate	Sun, 28 December 2003 14:47
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Lambolica	Sun, 28 December 2003 20:17
	Re: Which Petrol is better	manipulate	Sun, 28 December 2003 22:33
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Lambolica	Sun, 28 December 2003 22:35
	Re: Which Petrol is better	manipulate	Sun, 28 December 2003 22:37
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Lambolica	Sun, 28 December 2003 22:38
	Re: Which Petrol is better	manipulate	Sun, 28 December 2003 22:41
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Shraka	Mon, 29 December 2003 06:43
	Re: Which Petrol is better	speakafreaka	Mon, 29 December 2003 06:50
	Re: Which Petrol is better	ae86drift	Mon, 29 December 2003 08:33
	Re: Which Petrol is better	speakafreaka	Mon, 29 December 2003 08:39
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Shraka	Thu, 01 January 2004 15:28
	Re: Which Petrol is better	manipulate	Fri, 02 January 2004 00:20
	Re: Which Petrol is better	V8_MA61	Fri, 02 January 2004 00:54
	Re: Which Petrol is better	white83supra	Fri, 02 January 2004 07:13
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Shraka	Fri, 02 January 2004 02:48
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Shraka	Fri, 02 January 2004 13:38
	Re: Which Petrol is better	manipulate	Fri, 02 January 2004 14:16
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Shraka	Fri, 02 January 2004 14:39
	Re: Which Petrol is better	manipulate	Fri, 02 January 2004 15:40
	Re: Which Petrol is better	ed_ma61	Fri, 02 January 2004 15:48
	Re: Which Petrol is better	RobST162	Sun, 11 July 2004 03:47
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Shraka	Sat, 03 January 2004 04:16
	Re: Which Petrol is better	ae86drift	Sat, 03 January 2004 11:10
	Re: Which Petrol is better	oldcorollas	Sat, 03 January 2004 11:48
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Shraka	Sat, 03 January 2004 11:53
	Re: Which Petrol is better	manipulate	Sat, 03 January 2004 12:07
	Re: Which Petrol is better	oldcorollas	Sat, 03 January 2004 13:51
	Re: Which Petrol is better	oldcorollas	Sat, 03 January 2004 14:05
	Re: Which Petrol is better	purpleminiep	Sun, 04 January 2004 01:11
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Allan	Sun, 04 January 2004 01:57
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Shraka	Sun, 04 January 2004 03:32
	Re: Which Petrol is better	manipulate	Sun, 04 January 2004 03:34
	Re: Which Petrol is better	purpleminiep	Sun, 04 January 2004 03:40
	Re: Which Petrol is better	Son Gokou	Sun, 11 July 2004 05:41

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