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Apollo Forums Junkie Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia Registered: May 2002	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo? Tue, 30 December 2003 06:31 Nark wrote on Tue, 30 December 2003 15:02 bassaholic55 wrote on Tue, 30 December 2003 10:43 115fwkw. Compare that to my gz20 soarer from 88. It made 115rwkw when stock also. I don't see any improvements there. Seriously, unless you have BIG dollars you won't get a sports car these days, all you'll get is a dressed up family car eg. HSV, Sportivo and the list goes on. I think you're confusing Flywheel kW with Front wheel kW... The 1MZ-FE makes 115kW at the front wheels (from what was stated above). The GZ20 had the 114kW 1G-GEU (flywheel kW). Even if you compare it to an MZ20, you'll find that the improvements don't just stop at a single kW figure... Torque delivery, fuel consumption, no BHG are just a few improvements to the engine department. If you've ever been in a new Camry, you'll see how sturdy they are. The build quality is just awesome. You just can't compare them. No you can't compare them. The 15 YO soarer is just leaps and bounds ahead of the current designs. You can't deny it though. All of the "sports cars" these days are just family shopping trollies. HSV, XR6/8, VRX, "sportivo", etc. All are 4 door family cars trying for sporty looks. What we need is a return of the peformance car. To me the car industry died in 1998. The only thing that has kept it from a total loss is subaru with the WRX. And as for european looks that was ranted above, heck, if I did have a BMW or merc, they would be the best looking thing on the road, because I don't know where else in europe they got the "european design" from to create some of the most butt-ugly cars the world has ever seen. Certainly wasn't from where they got the designs for BMW or Mercedes. In fact, if it's touted with "european design" as a highlight, I take that as a warning to steer clear because you know it will be a shocker. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	ra23mad	Mon, 29 December 2003 00:22
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Classique71	Mon, 29 December 2003 01:54
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Nark	Mon, 29 December 2003 13:19
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	CamryMan	Tue, 30 December 2003 13:21
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Chris Davey	Mon, 29 December 2003 02:52
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	onejayzed	Mon, 29 December 2003 05:45
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	STR8 2.8	Mon, 29 December 2003 07:09
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Mon, 29 December 2003 07:20
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	DiZ_	Mon, 29 December 2003 09:33
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Intensevil	Mon, 29 December 2003 13:43
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	tailz	Mon, 29 December 2003 19:28
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Mon, 29 December 2003 22:28
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Caledwvech	Mon, 29 December 2003 23:13
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Chris Davey	Mon, 29 December 2003 23:43
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Nark	Tue, 30 December 2003 05:02
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Apollo	Tue, 30 December 2003 06:31
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Classique71	Tue, 30 December 2003 06:51
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Wed, 31 December 2003 04:18
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Caledwvech	Mon, 29 December 2003 23:45
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Chris Davey	Tue, 30 December 2003 05:10
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Nark	Tue, 30 December 2003 08:20
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Apollo	Tue, 30 December 2003 09:03
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Nark	Tue, 30 December 2003 12:29
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Apollo	Wed, 31 December 2003 14:26
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Nark	Wed, 31 December 2003 15:53
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Apollo	Thu, 01 January 2004 13:12
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Nark	Thu, 01 January 2004 14:27
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Apollo	Tue, 06 January 2004 07:05
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Nark	Tue, 06 January 2004 22:30
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Camry_omega	Sat, 10 January 2004 01:56
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Billy-Mason PI	Fri, 02 January 2004 03:06
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	CamryMan	Tue, 30 December 2003 13:10
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Caledwvech	Tue, 30 December 2003 05:22
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	CamryMan	Tue, 30 December 2003 13:34
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Grega	Tue, 30 December 2003 18:36
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Lambolica	Tue, 30 December 2003 22:58
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Billy-Mason PI	Tue, 30 December 2003 23:51
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	justcallmefrank	Fri, 02 January 2004 09:01
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Fri, 02 January 2004 13:32
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	justcallmefrank	Fri, 02 January 2004 13:37
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Intensevil	Wed, 31 December 2003 01:43
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	SmellyTofu	Thu, 01 January 2004 03:07
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Julz	Thu, 01 January 2004 04:52
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Thu, 01 January 2004 14:15
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Intensevil	Fri, 02 January 2004 02:15
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Fri, 02 January 2004 02:53
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Billy-Mason PI	Fri, 02 January 2004 03:42
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Chris Davey	Fri, 02 January 2004 04:05
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Fri, 02 January 2004 04:06
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Billy-Mason PI	Fri, 02 January 2004 04:26
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Intensevil	Fri, 02 January 2004 10:26
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	justcallmefrank	Fri, 02 January 2004 13:29
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Jag7799	Fri, 02 January 2004 13:09
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	justcallmefrank	Fri, 02 January 2004 13:31
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	justcallmefrank	Fri, 02 January 2004 13:42
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Fri, 02 January 2004 13:49
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Fri, 02 January 2004 13:48
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	justcallmefrank	Fri, 02 January 2004 13:51
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Fri, 02 January 2004 13:59
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	justcallmefrank	Fri, 02 January 2004 14:07
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Fri, 02 January 2004 14:32
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	RobST162	Sat, 03 January 2004 04:18
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	dingaling	Sat, 03 January 2004 05:25
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	rob-ae86	Sat, 03 January 2004 05:49
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Sat, 03 January 2004 06:07
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	justcallmefrank	Sat, 03 January 2004 09:55
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Sat, 03 January 2004 11:45
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	ra23mad	Sun, 04 January 2004 12:31
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Tue, 06 January 2004 11:42
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Billy-Mason PI	Tue, 06 January 2004 20:50
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Caledwvech	Tue, 06 January 2004 21:37
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	go_the_cam	Sat, 31 January 2004 09:06
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Camry_omega	Sun, 01 February 2004 06:10
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	go_the_cam	Sat, 31 January 2004 09:02
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Evil_Foetus	Mon, 02 February 2004 02:04
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Mon, 02 February 2004 03:41
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Camry_omega	Mon, 02 February 2004 06:57
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Nark	Mon, 02 February 2004 21:24
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Camry_omega	Tue, 03 February 2004 06:41
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Nark	Tue, 03 February 2004 08:46
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	justcallmefrank	Wed, 04 February 2004 09:29
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Nark	Wed, 04 February 2004 12:29
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Intensevil	Wed, 04 February 2004 09:41
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	justcallmefrank	Wed, 04 February 2004 09:46
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Intensevil	Wed, 04 February 2004 10:42
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	justcallmefrank	Wed, 04 February 2004 23:08
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	StuC	Wed, 04 February 2004 13:23
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Billy-Mason PI	Thu, 05 February 2004 00:07
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	StuC	Thu, 05 February 2004 07:03
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Camry_omega	Thu, 05 February 2004 10:51
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Nark	Thu, 05 February 2004 11:16
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Camry_omega	Fri, 06 February 2004 10:20
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Apophis	Sat, 07 February 2004 00:16
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Shraka	Sat, 07 February 2004 03:13
	Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?	Nark	Sun, 08 February 2004 10:28

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