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Shraka
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Re: What do people think of the new Camry Sportivo?

Wed, 31 December 2003 04:18

Apollo wrote on Tue, 30 December 2003 17:31

And as for european looks that was ranted above, heck, if I did have a BMW or merc, they would be the best looking thing on the road, because I don't know where else in europe they got the "european design" from to create some of the most butt-ugly cars the world has ever seen. Certainly wasn't from where they got the designs for BMW or Mercedes.

It comes from companies like Peugeot and Renault. Mad

Look, the Camry Sportivo is rather a nice looker for a family sedan. If I was a family man who wanted a sports car, but didn't have enough to buy a sports car AND a family sedan, I would seriously look into the Sportivo.

But it's not a performance car.

Most Australians are very hung up on practicality. Lets face it, a Supra isn't the best car to take you mother and grandmother to the shops in, or go for a long trip with more than one other person in the car. And as for taking laugage... well that's not what it's for. It's for performance that makes your bowls release and you're mind lose grip on reality.

Utes do so well here 'cuz most Australians want a "performance" (and I use the term losely) car that can haul junk around.

If Toyota was to bring back the Supra with a similar body, a
VVT-i Inline 6 TT with about 220kw at the wheels for say, 80K how many of you would buy one? See that's the problem. People like us who want gut wrenching performance cant afford cars from the dealer, so they don't care about us.

It's unfortunate but true. Gone are the days of rich guys having a mid life crisis and buying a Supra RZ with all the trim so can pick up chicks half his age to have an affair with. Then selling it a few years later 'cuz his wife finds out. These days it's all BMWs and other practical cars like that. And realy, these people don't care if their car can still turn on a dime at 250kph, or even if it can get up to 250kph. And they are also brainwashed by European advertising thinking that the only good car is a European car. You just have to see how well the "European styled" cars do.

As for the WRX cult following I'm not sure. I mean, the 2.0 Flat 4 is appealing, as it AWD and, from a practical sense, the 4 doors. And the fact that it's Australian Delivered is a big bonus. It's a performance car, not just a sedan with a stupid fat engine or a bodykit and tighter suspension, and it doesn't cost much either. The 200sx may be better, but it's not even Australian Delivered. Most "car enthusiasts" don't know anything (present company excluded ofcourse). They think Ferrari's are just the be all and end all of performance (even though a Supra can kick their asses for a fith of the price). They think that displacement = power.
ie.
Dumbass One: My car is a 3.8
Dumbass Two: Oh YEAH? well my car is a 4.0!! That means my one is better! (Despite the fact that my one is about 200kg heavier... oops)
And a lot of them don't even know that doing exhaust mods after the cat doesn't really help performance at all until you do mods before the cat. And then when they do get extractors they forget that they have to have the engine re-tuned! Bah.

Lets all become Millionaires and pressure Toyota to bring back the Supra, a AWD Celica that kills EVOs and WRXs, and an MR2 that isn't teh gay!

Woh, sorry for the long rant.

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