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Panda Tofu ^_^ Regular Location: Adelaide Registered: January 2004	Re: quarter mile times Mon, 19 January 2004 01:47 if u want cheap power then i would definatly go the gze as its not hard to find, easy to install if u got a m8 who knows what they are doing and u dont really have to fiddle round with it after u have installed it. However with a 20v are more expensive than a gze to start with, and once installed to get the power u want is not as easy to obtain like a gze where u just slap on a pully kit. With a 20v u need to increase the size of the cams to increase the valve timing therefore letting more fule and air in so more power can be obtained. The next problem is the ecu which u will have to change when u get up to cams arround 260 odd degrees in size which is costly as most aftermarket cpus cost over a grand. The power that u would get out of 260 degree cams would also be less than what u would with a nevo pully kit. Next is drivability, with a gze a novice driver can be VERY QUICK! as the revs stay reletivly the same as a normal engine range (max redline for a gze MUST BE 8,000rpm, this is due to the supercharger not being able to spin beyond 10,000rpm as it then starts to mealt the teflon seals, THIS IS VERY BAD ) So this means u have very good low and mid range power and tourqe, and up to a point high range power, and this is exactly what u want if u want a quick car as u want power in the lo revs to get u up to speed quickly and not having to wait till 9,000 or 10,000 rpm powerband. However with the 20v you have less drivability and beyoned 260deg cams u can kiss ne chance of abiding by fuel emmisions law goodbye this also means that u have much less fule economy. With the high reving nature of the 20v engine you will need to adjust the inlet mainfold soon after so that air intake can keep up with the lengthy valve timing which i have heard to increase the loudness of your car though i'm not sure if this is true. ALso when you use it as a daily driver u WILL be reving it at high powerbands as this is the nature of the engine you have created to get its full potential so you can pretty much see the practibility of this streetwise. neway thats my 2 cents, thought u might wanna know some things about the two engines before you go ahead ^_^ [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	quarter mile times	Andy_H	Sat, 10 January 2004 00:17
	Re: quarter mile times	draven	Sat, 10 January 2004 08:40
	Re: quarter mile times	Evil_Foetus	Sat, 10 January 2004 12:29
	Re: quarter mile times	draven	Sat, 10 January 2004 14:44
	Re: quarter mile times	Evil_Foetus	Sat, 10 January 2004 23:46
	Re: quarter mile times	KiRK	Mon, 12 January 2004 00:23
	Re: quarter mile times	mr yota	Tue, 13 January 2004 02:14
	Re: quarter mile times	bigg willie style	Tue, 13 January 2004 09:05
	Re: quarter mile times	mr yota	Tue, 13 January 2004 11:51
	Re: quarter mile times	bigg willie style	Wed, 14 January 2004 00:49
	Re: quarter mile times	mr yota	Wed, 14 January 2004 07:20
	Re: quarter mile times	Benjamin	Wed, 14 January 2004 12:08
	Re: quarter mile times	mr yota	Thu, 15 January 2004 09:35
	Re: quarter mile times	Benjamin	Fri, 16 January 2004 05:47
	Re: quarter mile times	mr yota	Sat, 17 January 2004 01:54
	Re: quarter mile times	Panda Tofu ^_^	Sat, 17 January 2004 03:32
	Re: quarter mile times	mr yota	Mon, 19 January 2004 01:02
	Re: quarter mile times	YelloRolla	Sun, 18 April 2004 09:06
	Re: quarter mile times	Panda Tofu ^_^	Mon, 19 January 2004 01:47
	Re: quarter mile times	mr yota	Mon, 19 January 2004 02:28
	Re: quarter mile times	Bugman	Thu, 22 January 2004 21:29
	Re: quarter mile times	Evil_Foetus	Fri, 23 January 2004 01:48
	Re: quarter mile times	truenosedan	Fri, 23 January 2004 01:53
	Re: quarter mile times	KiRK	Fri, 23 January 2004 09:26
	Re: quarter mile times	Panda Tofu ^_^	Fri, 23 January 2004 12:52
	Re: quarter mile times	truenosedan	Sat, 24 January 2004 00:45
	Re: quarter mile times	KiRK	Sat, 24 January 2004 05:06
	Re: quarter mile times	Panda Tofu ^_^	Sat, 24 January 2004 01:50
	Re: quarter mile times	Siktoy ra23	Wed, 28 January 2004 00:53
	Re: quarter mile times	Kach22	Wed, 28 January 2004 04:47
	Re: quarter mile times	ta23	Tue, 03 February 2004 12:44
	Re: quarter mile times	Siktoy ra23	Sat, 10 April 2004 09:03
	Re: quarter mile times	Jag7799	Sun, 11 April 2004 08:45
	Re: quarter mile times	boris	Mon, 12 April 2004 00:29
	Re: quarter mile times	Jag7799	Mon, 12 April 2004 00:36
	Re: quarter mile times	dcving	Tue, 13 April 2004 23:22
	Re: quarter mile times	Jag7799	Wed, 14 April 2004 09:10
	Re: quarter mile times	Siktoy ra23	Fri, 16 April 2004 12:55
	Re: quarter mile times	twinturbo86	Sat, 22 May 2004 23:58

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