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ed_ma61 Forums Junkie Location: Lost in the K hole Registered: May 2002	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG Fri, 23 January 2004 02:01 possible solution.... ive just been reading about a berko altezza 3s with vvti thats had a bit of work done to it. apparently they guy is having issues with the ECU retarding timing when the vvti kicks in (and changes the VE and torque profile of the engine) - attempting to supress knock. sounds similar to what could be happeneing with mine. cams come on around 3k rpm, VE and torque go up, thing starts to ping inaudibly, ecu retards timing, power falls away dramtically. perhaps on the dyno, the load was high enough that the ecu couldnt retard timing any further, and the knock became audible (along with the big drop in power) me think water injection could be a big winner in this situation cheers ed [Report message to a moderator]

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	7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Sun, 18 January 2004 14:13
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	thechuckster	Sun, 18 January 2004 14:25
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Sun, 18 January 2004 14:37
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	clubagreenie	Sun, 18 January 2004 20:46
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	sideshow	Sun, 18 January 2004 22:19
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	gianttomato	Sun, 18 January 2004 23:19
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	Norbie	Sun, 18 January 2004 23:29
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Mon, 19 January 2004 01:19
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	thechuckster	Mon, 19 January 2004 01:25
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	justcallmefrank	Mon, 19 January 2004 05:03
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	justcallmefrank	Mon, 19 January 2004 05:05
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	sideshow	Mon, 19 January 2004 08:20
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	oldcorollas	Mon, 19 January 2004 08:43
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	chrisss	Mon, 19 January 2004 12:22
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	gianttomato	Mon, 19 January 2004 13:07
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	oldcorollas	Mon, 19 January 2004 13:21
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Tue, 20 January 2004 04:17
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Tue, 20 January 2004 04:27
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	oldcorollas	Tue, 20 January 2004 04:38
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	thechuckster	Tue, 20 January 2004 04:50
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Tue, 20 January 2004 04:59
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Tue, 20 January 2004 04:56
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	amichie	Tue, 20 January 2004 05:34
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Tue, 20 January 2004 09:21
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	MS-75	Tue, 20 January 2004 06:13
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Tue, 20 January 2004 12:33
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	justcallmefrank	Tue, 20 January 2004 12:43
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	Allan	Tue, 20 January 2004 12:48
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Tue, 20 January 2004 12:51
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	Allan	Tue, 20 January 2004 12:49
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Tue, 20 January 2004 12:56
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	justcallmefrank	Tue, 20 January 2004 12:50
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	justcallmefrank	Tue, 20 January 2004 13:25
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Tue, 20 January 2004 13:32
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	stevevp	Tue, 20 January 2004 22:41
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	MS-75	Tue, 20 January 2004 22:51
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Wed, 21 January 2004 06:53
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Thu, 22 January 2004 03:52
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Fri, 23 January 2004 02:01
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	thechuckster	Fri, 23 January 2004 05:31
	Re: 7mge tuning, pinging, AFR's and other crap... LONG	ed_ma61	Fri, 23 January 2004 05:38

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