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Re: Strength of W58 gearbox	Mon, 09 February 2004 12:50

He's on the money, turbos make torque, that's their job. The theory that V8's make lots more torque is bull. Sure they do...compared to a NA 2l. Big undersquare V8's sure make a lot of torque off the line, but this makes them hard to get off the line in most RWD cars, and by design they don't rev hard enough to make the best of the mid-range and top end. Make them rev and they lose their bottom end... A 2JZGTE makes about 400Nm of torque stock and makes peak torque quite low. It's also very linear (a by-product of its sequential turbos) so it's bound to have been making a lot of torque throughout the rev-range. If you take Norbie's, its got about 100 extra hp over a stock 2JZ with the associated increase in torque. That is something I HIGHLY doubt you will ever reach with your 302, and if you did, you could only match it for peak. [Report message to a moderator]

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