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icon3.gif  Re: forced inductin 'vs' NA capacity Tue, 10 February 2004 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
The 3.0L 2JZ with 9-10psi is basically a 5.0L anyway.

I think the thing with the turbo is that it's not always that capacity. In a street application, it means *much* healthier fuel consumption.
The power is there if you want it, just with a bit of lag if you couldn't be bothered changing gears.
But anyone who's owned a turbo for a while (maybe I'm just talking about me and my small capacity turbo engine...) is that if you want to go anywhere without lag, you just pile on the revs. That may mean dropping 1-4 gears down... Smile

In a street application, you just can't beat the turbo for the size, weight, fuel consumption, and wide torque curve.
And, yes, the torque curve will be wider, but that's only in certain situations like stepping on it when there's enough revs. Otherwise, there will be lag. Even if it's a tiny little amount.

On the subject of the race track, have you noticed how F1 cars were turbo before they were banned? Or how rally cars are turbo? This would suggest that the packaging advantage given by turbos outweighs the downsides... Actually, rally cars don't have lag anyway so what other down sides are there?

As for the tuning issue of NA cars, turbos still work the same as an NA car with regards to cams and timing... To get the most out of a turbo car, you'd still need to do the same as in the NA...
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