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Re: forced inductin 'vs' NA capacity

Tue, 10 February 2004 11:42

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ed_ma61 wrote on Tue, 10 February 2004 21:07

dare i raise the issue of the validity of comparing the two above engines based on a WOT dyno curve?

sure, its an easy way of standardising power comparisons, but IMHO they really mean shit all.

i mean there is SOOOO much more to engine performance than WOT at full load doing a speed run (where, conveniently, there is AMPLE time for a turbo to spool).

gimme an engine that explodes with a micro-jab of the throttle thanks...

My comment wasnt about the actual dyno comparison of the two...In fact, for background (from someone who was there); that dyno comparison was actually done (By Pete Scott of Planet Soarer fame), to highlight just how close the 1JZ and 1UZ Soarers are in stock (or near stock) trim.

My point was that, even though they start that way, it is comparitively simple (and relatively inexpensive) to get quite decent gains from the turbo car, when compared to the NA car of higher capacity...Nothing new there, then!

FWIW, as I said before, I subscribe more to your idea of getting the most out of an NA engine...I mean, imagine a 1UZ with the same kind of enhancement work you have done to your 7M Smile

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Having said that, I also like the idea of a properly constructed 1UZ-GTE (A case of having your cake and eating it too...

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