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Re: forced inductin 'vs' NA capacity Thu, 12 February 2004 06:21 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Norbie wrote on Thu, 12 February 2004 11:25


And for those wanting to know the original point of this thread, the discussion started when Blake suggested his drivetrain won't cope with the torque of his V8 and I pointed out my 2JZ has significantly more torque. I think we may have strayed from the original point somewhat since then. Laughing



getting back the original point, even tho you are making (or probably making) _more_ torque, i believe (thru what i have researched) that turbos make "softer" torque. softer being related to 'suddne' changes.

reason i say (well, qualify) this is that the torque a turbo makes is dependant more on boost than on throttle position, so when a throttle change is made, the engine is slower to respond, and there is always a gradient in the torque.

with NA, the torque is more directly related to throttle position (well it's related to 'boost' of the atmospheric kind), and when you smack the throttle, you will have higher gradient of torque vs time, and same when you close throttle..

so basically what i'm saying is that a big NA engine will give the drivetrain a harder time than a turbo car with similar or slightly more torque.... the turbo will have less shock loading on the drivetrain.

Cya, Stewart

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