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blobby Newcomer Location: New Zealand Registered: February 2004	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx Mon, 16 February 2004 11:35 [quote title=7M-Brisbane wrote on Sat, 14 February 2004 02:57] Quote: for octane ratings, the majority of late model cars have ECUs clever enough to retard timing/tune following knock. As a result performance is normally hampered (admittedly on atmo cars this is not generally noticeable because they're a bit tardy to begin with), and even if not the longevity of motors in this situation has to be brought into question. Yup they do, so why do my 99 sti's cook number 4? or vtec type r's burn valves and break stem springs? Easy there are limits and these imported cars are tuned from the factory for a higher octane fuel than we run here or you get there. Will will note that the type r and alot of the other hot factory na's are listed with less power than the JDM cars for this exact reason. anyway, are we talking na or tt here? With a chip intake exhaust and boost jets a tt 300 on auto spec turbos will make 178kw at the rear wheels ( with an auto box ) on Robin's dyno at Torque perfomance, a manual car made 199kw with the same setup. Stock cars were 120-125 kw. P.S. as an interesting side note, try comparing cars on fuel use to horse power. Makes rotories look very silly and Yank v8's look pretty good...... I can't believe I said that. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Supra mk3 vs 300zx	drummerboy	Mon, 09 February 2004 10:27
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	V8_MA61	Mon, 09 February 2004 10:33
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	Celia-Sue	Mon, 09 February 2004 10:35
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	justcallmefrank	Mon, 09 February 2004 10:37
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	V8_MA61	Mon, 09 February 2004 11:19
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	justcallmefrank	Mon, 09 February 2004 11:20
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	BlackSupra	Mon, 09 February 2004 11:51
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	V8_MA61	Mon, 09 February 2004 11:52
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	Allan	Mon, 09 February 2004 11:58
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	justcallmefrank	Mon, 09 February 2004 12:08
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	V8_MA61	Mon, 09 February 2004 12:00
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	7M-Brisbane	Mon, 09 February 2004 12:22
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	V8_MA61	Mon, 09 February 2004 12:29
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	Norbie	Mon, 09 February 2004 12:36
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	justcallmefrank	Mon, 09 February 2004 12:31
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	Zhyr	Wed, 11 February 2004 14:17
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	V8_MA61	Mon, 09 February 2004 12:40
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	spans	Mon, 09 February 2004 15:26
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	CrUZsida	Mon, 09 February 2004 15:35
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	spans	Mon, 09 February 2004 15:41
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	robs	Mon, 09 February 2004 21:38
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	7M-Brisbane	Tue, 10 February 2004 10:30
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	Jag7799	Tue, 10 February 2004 23:54
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	ReQuieM	Wed, 11 February 2004 01:43
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	draven	Wed, 11 February 2004 05:39
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	Allan	Wed, 11 February 2004 12:56
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	Jag7799	Wed, 11 February 2004 13:05
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	wastegate	Wed, 11 February 2004 23:31
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	HedgehogSandwich	Wed, 11 February 2004 13:03
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	drummerboy	Wed, 11 February 2004 15:30
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	lumpy	Thu, 12 February 2004 00:08
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	RobST162	Thu, 12 February 2004 00:10
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	clubagreenie	Wed, 11 February 2004 20:40
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	HedgehogSandwich	Wed, 11 February 2004 23:03
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	draven	Thu, 12 February 2004 00:18
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	V8_MA61	Thu, 12 February 2004 03:02
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	blobby	Thu, 12 February 2004 10:50
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	7M-Brisbane	Thu, 12 February 2004 12:16
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	blobby	Thu, 12 February 2004 12:51
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	RobST162	Thu, 12 February 2004 13:02
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	blobby	Thu, 12 February 2004 13:13
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	RobST162	Thu, 12 February 2004 13:18
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	blobby	Thu, 12 February 2004 13:27
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	RobST162	Thu, 12 February 2004 22:55
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	FullySick	Thu, 12 February 2004 23:36
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	wastegate	Thu, 12 February 2004 23:48
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	7M-Brisbane	Fri, 13 February 2004 13:57
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	blobby	Mon, 16 February 2004 11:35
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	V8_MA61	Mon, 16 February 2004 11:45
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	JZA70_R	Sat, 14 February 2004 00:56
	Re: Supra mk3 vs 300zx	Norbie	Mon, 16 February 2004 15:14

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