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[TOYROTA] Regular Location: A.C.T Registered: July 2002	Re: New Camry Tue, 20 August 2002 04:35 justcallmefrank wrote on Mon, 19 August 2002 7:51 PM How can it be based on the ES300? That is a RWD car? Jeez, someone should have told me before i started doing reverse dohnuts in the test mule ES300 we had then... No jokes, the ES300 is definately FWD because i had about 15minutes of fun on the skid pan at my dads work with one of the test vehicles we had. (my dad does tests and releases of all of Toyota's/Lexus's new models.) Unfortunately i didn't have THAT much fun because of the little front wheel drive aspect. (you may have been thinking of a GS300). FWD is a really good idea, it's generally safer for the general public and of course all of the previously mentioned plusses. If anyone wants to argue the safety apsect of a FWD VS a RWD i will be glad to rip your argument apart. I have sat in on MANY years worth of listening to my Dad's and his work partner's (Rick Bates) lectures on Vehicle dynamics and the like, and i pretty much have it down pat, so if anyone else (not mentioning any names) thinks they know it all i'd be glad to show you the light. Also any questions would be gladly answered. And back to that WRX thing. If you think a stock WRX handles good, then i think it may be time to upgrade from the EXCEL... After doing many laps around various curcuits around Australia in various tunes of WRX, I find that unless they have AT LEAST a mild rear stabiliser on them, they are atrocious understeerers. Of course it is possible to drive them in a way so as to lessen the understeer during cornering, however then the vehicle will be cornering much slower than it's excellent chassis and driveline could otherwise handle with ease. You may find it hard to beleive, but back when my TA22 was stock-as-a-rock besides some stiffened King springs, it would easily out corner a stock WRX on any track i put it on, especially tighter curcuits like the old Wakefield. Anyway, i probably sound like i'm bragging or something, which i'm not, just venting some info some of you might've not known. (With a bit of passion mixed in ) André [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	New Camry	Nark	Fri, 16 August 2002 00:30
	Re: New Camry	[TOYROTA]	Fri, 16 August 2002 01:30
	Re: New Camry	Nark	Fri, 16 August 2002 01:38
	Re: New Camry	CamryMan	Fri, 16 August 2002 11:07
	Re: New Camry	MC HyundaiTurboNacho	Fri, 16 August 2002 14:09
	Re: New Camry	ytri	Sat, 17 August 2002 06:28
	Re: New Camry	CamryMan	Sun, 18 August 2002 01:51
	Re: New Camry	sbyder	Sun, 18 August 2002 02:08
	Re: New Camry	old_mr2	Sun, 18 August 2002 02:19
	Re: New Camry	manipulate	Sun, 18 August 2002 09:37
	Re: New Camry	wizzfizz2097	Sun, 18 August 2002 09:37
	Re: New Camry	manipulate	Sun, 18 August 2002 09:38
	Re: New Camry	Rolla Boy	Sun, 18 August 2002 11:03
	Re: New Camry	justcallmefrank	Mon, 19 August 2002 09:51
	Re: New Camry	[TOYROTA]	Tue, 20 August 2002 04:35
	Re: New Camry	Toby AE82 Twin	Mon, 19 August 2002 23:00
	Re: New Camry	Nark	Mon, 19 August 2002 23:11
	Re: New Camry	manipulate	Mon, 19 August 2002 23:14
	Re: New Camry	Toby AE82 Twin	Mon, 19 August 2002 23:32
	Re: New Camry	Nark	Mon, 19 August 2002 23:45
	Re: New Camry	Toby AE82 Twin	Mon, 19 August 2002 23:56
	Re: New Camry	Nark	Tue, 20 August 2002 00:02
	Re: New Camry	SteveGt4	Tue, 20 August 2002 00:13
	Re: New Camry	Toby AE82 Twin	Tue, 20 August 2002 08:12
	Re: New Camry	[TOYROTA]	Mon, 26 August 2002 07:55
	Re: New Camry	Toby AE82 Twin	Mon, 26 August 2002 08:36
	Re: New Camry	Classique71	Tue, 27 August 2002 08:05

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