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Nark Forums Junkie Location: Cabramatta, NSW Registered: May 2002	Re: bodybuilding Wed, 10 March 2004 22:28 Shraka wrote on Wed, 10 March 2004 23:33 Nark, your not talking about flexability, your talking about speed. I think you'll find you can get big and fast. My sensai was fairly large and still the fastest person at our Dojo. He did weights. It's just a matter of doing speed training as well as weight training. You'll find that after doing weight training you feel slower, but that's 'cuz the muscles are all weak and worn out. Quickness in martial arts is a combination of three things: * physical ability * muscle memory (that's why you do sets/patterns over and over) * knowledge If you look at a lot of good martial artists (Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Jet Li) you'll see that they're not big and bulky even though they train prolly as much as professional weighlifters/bodybuilders. Actually, a LOT of martial artists you won't even see much muscle definition until you're an inch from getting your head smashed in. Oh, and a little disclaimer, when I say "martial arts" I'm talking mainly about the Chinese ones with both Internal and External components, so I'm not talking about Karate, Tae Kwon Do, Kickboxing, et al. lang wrote on Thu, 11 March 2004 08:39 i stretch every day for about 20-30mins, cos i know if i didnt id be waddling around everywhere from being so inflexible. my ain with weightlifting (and the cardio work i do) is to get a body like many of the boxers do. large lean and very powerfull All I'm saying is that the amount of muscle bulk that people aim for when going to the gym gets in the way. You can stretch all you like, but you're carrying around a lot of excess muscle that can get in the way of you doing things. Anyway, this is going way off topic. Sorry for that guys. I think I'll stop now. Or maybe start a new thread. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	bodybuilding	lang	Wed, 10 March 2004 09:12
	Re: bodybuilding	BlackSupra	Wed, 10 March 2004 09:31
	Re: bodybuilding	DannyGT4	Wed, 10 March 2004 09:40
	Re: bodybuilding	TokenBlackGuy	Wed, 10 March 2004 09:32
	Re: bodybuilding	Cool1	Wed, 10 March 2004 09:33
	Re: bodybuilding	BlackSupra	Wed, 10 March 2004 09:37
	Re: bodybuilding	Cool1	Wed, 10 March 2004 09:43
	Re: bodybuilding	BlackSupra	Wed, 10 March 2004 09:46
	Re: bodybuilding	RobST162	Wed, 10 March 2004 09:53
	Re: bodybuilding	DannyGT4	Wed, 10 March 2004 10:36
	Re: bodybuilding	lang	Wed, 10 March 2004 09:53
	Re: bodybuilding	BlackSupra	Wed, 10 March 2004 10:09
	Re: bodybuilding	Backspace	Wed, 10 March 2004 10:40
	Re: bodybuilding	lang	Wed, 10 March 2004 10:50
	Re: bodybuilding	Nark	Wed, 10 March 2004 11:55
	Re: bodybuilding	lang	Wed, 10 March 2004 12:05
	Re: bodybuilding	BlackSupra	Wed, 10 March 2004 12:13
	Re: bodybuilding	Nark	Wed, 10 March 2004 12:21
	Re: bodybuilding	Cool1	Wed, 10 March 2004 12:23
	Re: bodybuilding	Nark	Wed, 10 March 2004 12:25
	Re: bodybuilding	BlackSupra	Wed, 10 March 2004 12:26
	Re: bodybuilding	lang	Wed, 10 March 2004 21:39
	Re: bodybuilding	Shraka	Wed, 10 March 2004 12:33
	Re: bodybuilding	boris	Wed, 10 March 2004 12:35
	Re: bodybuilding	Nark	Wed, 10 March 2004 22:28
	Re: bodybuilding	BlackSupra	Wed, 10 March 2004 23:12
	Re: bodybuilding	Nark	Thu, 11 March 2004 03:38
	Re: bodybuilding	Les	Thu, 11 March 2004 12:55
	Re: bodybuilding	Shraka	Wed, 10 March 2004 12:37
	Re: bodybuilding	old_mr2	Wed, 10 March 2004 17:20
	Re: bodybuilding	Shraka	Thu, 11 March 2004 03:34
	Re: bodybuilding	ILUSZN	Thu, 11 March 2004 22:55
	Re: bodybuilding	BlackSupra	Thu, 11 March 2004 23:47

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