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Re: Mod hlep for a new 4th gen' guy? Wed, 21 April 2004 03:45 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
keep in mind that the BEAMS 3SGE is about as good as you are going to get with a 3SGE, or even a 2L motor

so whats different between the BEAMS (and the honduh S2000) compared to normal 3SGE? the beams makes peak torque, 200nmm at about 6500rpm, and peak power, 210hp, about 7500rpm.... (S2000 is even higher due to the cams)

basically it comes down to two main things.

weight reduction of moving parts. you MUST do this to get power/torque at high rpm. otherwise piston speeds will be such that bits will break. the S2000 has light pistons AND light rods to allow it to go to such high rpm... it has piston speeds equal to what honda uses in their F1 motors......

tuning for high rpm. this is not just cams... it is a combination of cam profiles, intake tract tuning (which needs to be very spot on) AND exhaust manifold tuning.... only when these three are in the correct combination will it all work together..

there are other things, like higher compression ratio, better fuel etc..

the thing is... to equal the BEAMS motors output with the heavier internals of the normal 3SGE, you will need to build it as a race motor... heck ppl building them as race motors often don't reach the same specs!!

so i guess what i'm saying is:

find out as much about the BEAMS motor as you can, and then copy it as closely as possible.

anyhoo, food for thought
Cya, Stewart
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