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improvedae86 Forums Junkie Location: Melbourne Registered: January 2003	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks ! Thu, 20 May 2004 00:07 If you are going to go as far as making steering arms Why don't you make the steering arm Incorporated the rca so you can address the problem of the strength of the unit , and while you are at it move the tie-rod location to the correct height to get rid of the bump-steer that you are going to have doubled with the shorter arms with no powersteering . This also occurs because of the rcas depending on the ride height . How you do this is measure the steering arm angle , so take a measurement from the rack balljoint height , down to the tierod balljoint . You with find that this angle will be worst on cars fitted with rca's . And longer lower arms will also effect this due the lower ball-joint angle being increased . Here are some measurements from one of the front ends setups i have done * note these are rough tape measure jobs * should be done with a string line or correct wheel alignment tools before producing sure items . 1.AE86 , non powersteering steering arms , ta22 lower arms , trd springs , hts shocks , ride height { top of tyres level with guards } stock RA40 tie-rods used , 2.5cm rcas . Vehicle on four post hoist . 1.5cm tie-rod drop , should be about 3.0cm for this ride height . due to the lower arm pivot point angle , but the longer lower arm , with the rca has increased the ball-joint angle and tie-rod location , so this setup will have less bump-steer than standard ae86 . if the tie-rod height was re-located 1.5 down , the car would have less bump steer again depending on camber / caster angles . Does any else understand this ? i got lost in the measurement too . But still there is the steering axis intersection point issue , so this could be addressed by also making the rca/steering arm ball-joint > tie-rod offset corrected , and the strut to rca/steering arm bolt locations adjustable , like a few { three offsets } to cover all types of strut / brake conversions . Will find the measurements i have from other front end setups . Someone else measure there car !! [Updated on: Thu, 20 May 2004 00:09] [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	[AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Tue, 18 May 2004 13:23
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	shinybluesteel	Tue, 18 May 2004 14:59
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Tue, 18 May 2004 15:34
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	Satoshi	Tue, 18 May 2004 15:25
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	monkeymajik	Tue, 18 May 2004 21:50
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	takai	Tue, 18 May 2004 22:11
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	bubbles	Tue, 18 May 2004 23:37
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Wed, 19 May 2004 06:03
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	purpleminiep	Wed, 19 May 2004 06:04
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	NickAE86	Wed, 19 May 2004 06:06
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Wed, 19 May 2004 06:12
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	monkeymajik	Wed, 19 May 2004 06:21
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Wed, 19 May 2004 06:36
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	NickAE86	Wed, 19 May 2004 06:33
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	improvedae86	Wed, 19 May 2004 06:33
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Wed, 19 May 2004 07:39
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Wed, 19 May 2004 07:51
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86trueno	Wed, 19 May 2004 08:54
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	oldcorollas	Wed, 19 May 2004 11:36
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	gabe	Wed, 19 May 2004 11:53
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	shinybluesteel	Wed, 19 May 2004 11:55
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Wed, 19 May 2004 12:25
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	gabe	Fri, 21 May 2004 11:41
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	oldcorollas	Wed, 19 May 2004 06:38
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	improvedae86	Wed, 19 May 2004 06:49
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	Satoshi	Wed, 19 May 2004 09:24
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Wed, 19 May 2004 09:43
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	kingmick	Wed, 19 May 2004 10:24
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Wed, 19 May 2004 10:35
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	gabe	Wed, 19 May 2004 10:43
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Wed, 19 May 2004 11:56
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	gabe	Wed, 19 May 2004 12:12
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	kingmick	Wed, 19 May 2004 11:55
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	monkeymajik	Wed, 19 May 2004 12:02
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Wed, 19 May 2004 12:07
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	kingmick	Wed, 19 May 2004 12:08
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	takai	Wed, 19 May 2004 12:43
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	mrshin	Wed, 19 May 2004 13:32
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Wed, 19 May 2004 13:45
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	improvedae86	Wed, 19 May 2004 13:58
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	Simon-AE86	Wed, 19 May 2004 14:21
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Wed, 19 May 2004 16:02
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae95	Wed, 19 May 2004 15:43
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae95	Wed, 19 May 2004 16:08
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae95	Wed, 19 May 2004 16:19
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	improvedae86	Thu, 20 May 2004 00:07
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	bathurst-91	Thu, 20 May 2004 02:57
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	NickAE86	Thu, 20 May 2004 05:35
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	purpleminiep	Thu, 20 May 2004 12:24
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	arena	Thu, 20 May 2004 13:21
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	Simon-AE86	Thu, 20 May 2004 14:14
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Thu, 20 May 2004 15:30
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	Steve-AE86	Thu, 20 May 2004 23:53
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	improvedae86	Fri, 21 May 2004 02:15
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	Rex_Kelway	Sat, 22 May 2004 00:49
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Mon, 24 May 2004 08:12
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	Hirogen	Fri, 21 May 2004 02:54
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	Youngy	Fri, 21 May 2004 07:09
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	kingmick	Fri, 21 May 2004 10:23
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	Youngy	Fri, 21 May 2004 10:48
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	kingmick	Fri, 21 May 2004 11:53
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	gabe	Fri, 21 May 2004 12:05
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	improvedae86	Sat, 22 May 2004 03:51
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	EVOSTi	Sat, 22 May 2004 09:37
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	JohnH	Sat, 22 May 2004 22:52
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Mon, 24 May 2004 08:14
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	EVOSTi	Mon, 24 May 2004 09:15
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	ae86drift	Mon, 24 May 2004 10:04
	Re: [AE86] Lets talk steering racks !	JohnH	Mon, 24 May 2004 20:36

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