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THE WITZL Forums Junkie Toymods Social Secretary Location: Sydney Registered: July 2002	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE Mon, 24 May 2004 12:29 kewp wrote on Mon, 24 May 2004 19:37 Thats total crap. Having had a 86kw, a 100kw and now a 20v in my AE82, i can tell u that the 100kw had heaps more power than the 86kw, and the 20v has heaps more than the 100kw. U can't rely on dyno figures, cos usually there not accurate, i've seen stock 20v's get over 100kw ATW and stock GZE's struggle to make 90! So you are telling me that an engine dyno is inaccurate? That i should believe the "Toyota quoted power figures".... How about the 1/4 mile times.... AE92, blacktop 20V 6 sp - 15.0 (a brissy car) AE92, blacktop 20V 5sp - 15.5 (was at WSID) AE92, stock MAP GZE 5spd - 14.8 (Melbourne, A GIRL [ladySX]) AE92, silvertop 20V 5 spd - 16.0 (multiple cars at willobank) AE71, very tired 100kW 4A-GE = 15.807 (me, WSID) AE92, 100kW 4age stock = 16.4 (brissy cars) Kewp - did u also feel teh powah increase when u installed your pod filter on each of these motors? What is the freakin deal with people saying the 4A-GZE doesn't rev? The GZE wants to rev MORE than the NA variants - thats comparing my AE71 100kW with an AE82 map GZE with an AE92 silvertop 20V... The GZE just torques its way up to 7.5k without blinking! And a final note to all for the 100000th time... CHASSIS DYNO'S ARE A TUNING TOOL, NOT A COMPARISON GUIDE. Especially when comparing power ATW of two different cars on two different dynos, with different tyres, tyre pressures, strapping techniques, ambient temperatures... etc etc, there is NO WAY you can compare the two and call that an accurate (or even remotely related) comparison. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	sprinter_steve	Sat, 22 May 2004 04:23
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	John K	Sat, 22 May 2004 05:37
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	twincam_ke20	Sat, 22 May 2004 08:23
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	THE WITZL	Sat, 22 May 2004 09:53
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	sprinter_steve	Sun, 23 May 2004 01:55
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	Arch	Sun, 23 May 2004 03:09
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	DiZ_	Sun, 23 May 2004 06:31
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	kewp	Mon, 24 May 2004 09:37
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	THE WITZL	Mon, 24 May 2004 12:29
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	serge	Mon, 24 May 2004 12:43
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	monkeymajik	Mon, 24 May 2004 12:45
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	THE WITZL	Mon, 24 May 2004 12:50
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	THE WITZL	Sun, 23 May 2004 09:20
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	oldcorollas	Sun, 23 May 2004 10:52
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	truenosedan	Sun, 23 May 2004 14:09
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	10sec_rx7	Mon, 24 May 2004 05:23
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	AE86slut	Mon, 24 May 2004 11:20
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	serge	Mon, 24 May 2004 11:35
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	ae86drift	Mon, 24 May 2004 12:10
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	jasonp1977	Mon, 24 May 2004 11:25
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	BlackSupra	Mon, 24 May 2004 12:36
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	oldcorollas	Mon, 24 May 2004 12:49
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	AE86slut	Mon, 24 May 2004 12:50
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	serge	Mon, 24 May 2004 12:57
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	BlackSupra	Mon, 24 May 2004 12:54
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	RWDboy	Mon, 24 May 2004 13:03
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	old_mr2	Mon, 24 May 2004 13:06
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	kewp	Mon, 24 May 2004 14:02
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	RWDboy	Mon, 24 May 2004 14:11
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	mk1sc	Mon, 24 May 2004 16:44
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	twincam_ke20	Mon, 24 May 2004 21:38
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	monkeymajik	Tue, 25 May 2004 00:59
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	Flogbag	Tue, 25 May 2004 07:43
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	BlackSupra	Tue, 25 May 2004 09:38
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	AE86slut	Tue, 25 May 2004 11:09
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	sprinter_steve	Wed, 26 May 2004 06:51
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	BlackSupra	Wed, 26 May 2004 06:57
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	sprinter_steve	Wed, 26 May 2004 07:24
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	THE WITZL	Wed, 26 May 2004 08:13
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	sprinter_steve	Wed, 26 May 2004 08:22
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	TA-022	Wed, 26 May 2004 10:38
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	Arch	Wed, 26 May 2004 13:27
	Re: 4age 20 valve VS 4AGZE	THE WITZL	Wed, 26 May 2004 21:22

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