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soarer21 Forums Junkie Toymods Forum Sponsor Location: Brisbane Registered: February 2003	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing Thu, 10 June 2004 02:34 Well that is a subject worthy of discussion. The exhaust side of the equation is one of restriction reduction. You lose power on a stock engine because the exhaust side is small to promote low down power/early spool of the turbo. The upshot is the engine suffers in the higher RPM range. By increasing the exhaust size you decrease the restriction and allow the engine to breathe better. The down side is lag. Adding an exhaust to the car of 3inch or whatever has a similar effect. The 7M's stock power is made at 5800rpm so I gained the power at the same RPM..... The compressor side is one of efficiency as well. An intake with a fixed volume will only hold a certain amount of air. At 8psi with a stock turbo there will be the same volume of air, but there will be a lesser mass of air. This is due to several things. 1- the turbo is more efficient, so it does not thrash the air about as much as stock, though I feel the stock turbo will not be a bad item at that level (not counting exhaust side) 2- the piping used is less prone to flex as I have removed all the rubber sections. 3- the intercoolers efficiency is lightyears ahead of the stock cooler therefore, the "flow" will be the same, however the mass will be increased due to a larger temperature drop. The difference between the stock turbo and the T04S is greater the further up the boost scale you go because the T04S maintains a higher level of efficiency at all times, probably increases it due to design etc. Therefore basically the same "volume" of air was available to the engine as with the stock turbo, its just at a lesser temp and consequently has more oxygen per C.Ft then same engine with stock turbo. Thats where the power gains are made. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 09 June 2004 04:54
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	justcallmefrank	Wed, 09 June 2004 05:29
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	boris	Wed, 09 June 2004 05:30
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 09 June 2004 05:33
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	justcallmefrank	Wed, 09 June 2004 05:37
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 09 June 2004 05:48
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	V8_MA61	Wed, 09 June 2004 07:56
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	boris	Wed, 09 June 2004 07:57
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	V8_MA61	Wed, 09 June 2004 07:58
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	boris	Wed, 09 June 2004 07:58
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	V8_MA61	Wed, 09 June 2004 07:59
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	boris	Wed, 09 June 2004 08:01
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	V8_MA61	Wed, 09 June 2004 08:02
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 09 June 2004 08:49
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	justcallmefrank	Wed, 09 June 2004 08:53
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	boris	Wed, 09 June 2004 08:56
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	justcallmefrank	Wed, 09 June 2004 08:58
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 09 June 2004 09:02
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	STR8 2.8	Wed, 09 June 2004 10:12
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 09 June 2004 10:24
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	draven	Wed, 09 June 2004 10:36
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	boris	Wed, 09 June 2004 10:38
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	draven	Wed, 09 June 2004 10:44
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	boris	Wed, 09 June 2004 10:50
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	draven	Wed, 09 June 2004 12:44
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Special Ed	Wed, 09 June 2004 12:54
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 09 June 2004 11:10
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	justcallmefrank	Wed, 09 June 2004 11:16
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	boris	Wed, 09 June 2004 11:18
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Cool1	Wed, 09 June 2004 11:22
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Special Ed	Wed, 09 June 2004 11:23
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 09 June 2004 11:43
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Special Ed	Wed, 09 June 2004 12:34
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	boris	Wed, 09 June 2004 12:39
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 09 June 2004 12:43
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	boris	Wed, 09 June 2004 12:45
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	alwaysRA23	Wed, 09 June 2004 13:02
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Special Ed	Wed, 09 June 2004 13:07
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 09 June 2004 12:53
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Special Ed	Wed, 09 June 2004 13:01
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 09 June 2004 13:12
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Special Ed	Wed, 09 June 2004 13:15
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 09 June 2004 13:20
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Skip	Wed, 09 June 2004 23:44
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	takai	Wed, 09 June 2004 22:48
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 09 June 2004 22:53
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	soarer21	Wed, 09 June 2004 23:29
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Special Ed	Thu, 10 June 2004 00:36
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	boris	Thu, 10 June 2004 00:38
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Thu, 10 June 2004 00:41
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	7M-Brisbane	Thu, 10 June 2004 00:43
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Thu, 10 June 2004 00:51
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	soarer21	Thu, 10 June 2004 01:19
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	DavGT4	Wed, 07 July 2004 03:48
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	soarer21	Thu, 10 June 2004 01:29
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Skip	Thu, 10 June 2004 01:47
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	soarer21	Thu, 10 June 2004 02:34
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Skip	Thu, 10 June 2004 04:51
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Special Ed	Thu, 10 June 2004 07:16
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	soarer21	Thu, 10 June 2004 07:27
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Special Ed	Thu, 10 June 2004 07:54
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	soarer21	Thu, 10 June 2004 08:11
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Special Ed	Thu, 10 June 2004 08:23
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	sideshow	Thu, 10 June 2004 11:41
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Thu, 10 June 2004 11:50
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Skip	Thu, 10 June 2004 13:24
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Special Ed	Thu, 10 June 2004 13:25
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	oldcorollas	Fri, 11 June 2004 03:48
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	oldcorollas	Fri, 11 June 2004 03:52
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Skip	Fri, 11 June 2004 04:46
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Fri, 11 June 2004 12:00
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	YelloRolla	Fri, 11 June 2004 13:15
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	bbaacchhyy	Wed, 07 July 2004 05:11
	Re: Johal and jakes 1jz and 3t gte dyno outing	Jag7799	Wed, 07 July 2004 06:29

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