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Re: Cars pulls one way when wheels spin? Sun, 13 June 2004 00:40 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
It can even get more complicated than just the pinion angle , you can also go further into the center vs wheel center torque effect . I am guessing that the car has a stock length diff which the offset pinion position and length off the diff was designed for about 80hp or so at the wheels . Next it has to take three of more times that , next what happens when the torque over powers the design . The wheel is pulled of the ground so to speak by the torque forces , this is easy to control , as in the cases of drag racing setups , this force is distributed to the body of the car . Thats why front wheels come of the ground , and the looks to be twisting . In the case of track / road cars this is a little harder to engineer to stop , in a total race car easy just make the as wide as possible , eg v8 supercars etc , diff is 200mm wider than the road car . Road cars have to be a balance between the drag set up and still corner brake etc . There is a formula for this that i no doubt Old Corolla will have seen , or know of the top of his head , but apart for all this you still really will not know until you test it . So it not really Torque steer as such but it still happens do to the same forces , torque steer in fwd has been solved in the late 70's 80's by the European's , just add softly mounted engines east west design with equal length drive shafts , softer front suspension to back and unless the vehicle has to much hp for the basic fwd design you shouldn't have a problem . Live axle is unfortunately a dated design thats only benefit is its cheaper to make for the manufacturer's . Independent suspension design normally distributes this force though the complete rear suspension and subframe as well as less unsprung weight for faster reacting suspension movement so this problem is less likely to occur .
Shit all this reminders me of school , fuck Ta22 gt now i feel old .

And people ask why i want to make a irs ae86 !!
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