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Is that you working the Dirt FWDBoy?? (Avatar) nice one!! Tue, 15 June 2004 00:21 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
I get to drive a practically endless array of commodes, state-O's. utes, Monaro's, etc etc at work, and I can assure you that front shock firmness has a huge bearing on how much weight you can transfer, especially once you've turned in. The above mentioned cars all have basically the same body and suspension (yes, I know the statey + ute have a LWB), so they all handle in basically the same way. This highlights in BOLD the difference that suspension tune makes.

For example: The U.S. Monaro (Pontiac GTO) has slightly harder springs than the Aussie spec Munro, but really firm dampers. This makes the GTO really sensitive to sudden inputs and bumps, whereas the Aus.Spec car just soaks everything up, squats and gets on with it. When the GTO's shocks make a nuisance of themselves is in the wet/low grip, when trying to get weight onto the front-end for turn in just hits a wall of compression damping. This raises the effective "rate" of the front springs through the roof, resulting in understeer before you can get enough weight up-front to make the tyres bite.

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Read Message   Driving Techniques - How to stop the front end from 'pushing' ed_ma61Sun, 06 June 2004 23:26
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Read Message   Is that you working the Dirt FWDBoy?? (Avatar) nice one!!  st184 sillycarTue, 15 June 2004 00:21
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