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4ageeza Forums Junkie Location: Adelaide, drift capital Registered: May 2004	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread Wed, 16 June 2004 01:32 NickAE86 wrote on Wed, 16 June 2004 09:58 theres no way i can let you get away with saying that you wanna see aussie hip hop sellouts check out resin dogs "hi 5 from the volcanic lab" and listen to their present day shit. Downsyde released the "Epinonimous" album back in 2000 and were bascially unheared of until about a year or two ago...goes to show talent isnt picked up until a catchy song gets radio play and all of a sudden everyone loves them (catchy=money for big wigs)...i cant see how you can call them sellouts. Both HH & Koolism have started to cater more so to the mainstream but i wont say they've sold out until they start touring USA Fair enuf, I definitely agree that the resin dogs are sellouts, they have done some tours with like pure r&b wakers, and their music is so far from hiphop imo. Hilltop hoods are fukn mad mcs, dont get me wrong, but what they rap about today is so not what they were about 2 years ago. There attitudes have shifted from the underground soul, to money, fame, and credit. Not to say that if a group does get airplay, they are instantly wak, but if their focus is not on hiphop and its spirit, but is on commercial things then they're selling out to the 'mainstream' rappers values such as 50 cent, eminem ect. who don't portray the true hiphop that KRS One outlined. I grew up in the same suburb as the hilltop hoods, and have listened to them since their first album, and been to some of their shows, and I really think their focus has changed. I saw downsyde last year at some Christmas/New Years show on TV, doing a track infront of like 1000s of young kids and parents, it was just not hiphop in my opinion. I really dont think aussie rappers will ever tour the USA in a mainstream tour, they'd probably get capped . But anyways thats my 2cs, anyone elses opinions? [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Mon, 14 June 2004 16:30
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	no_tofu_speed	Mon, 14 June 2004 16:51
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	thu187	Mon, 10 January 2005 21:17
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	no_tofu_speed	Mon, 14 June 2004 16:59
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Mon, 14 June 2004 17:07
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Tue, 15 June 2004 01:43
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Mon, 14 June 2004 17:39
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	Dekes	Mon, 14 June 2004 23:53
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	joyride	Tue, 15 June 2004 15:55
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SIMDOG	Tue, 15 June 2004 02:22
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Tue, 15 June 2004 02:37
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Tue, 15 June 2004 02:34
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SIMDOG	Tue, 15 June 2004 03:15
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Tue, 15 June 2004 03:34
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Tue, 15 June 2004 04:06
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	lang	Tue, 15 June 2004 03:52
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Tue, 15 June 2004 04:08
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Tue, 15 June 2004 04:22
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Tue, 15 June 2004 04:31
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	lyle-act	Tue, 15 June 2004 07:33
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	Backspace	Tue, 15 June 2004 07:41
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	tempest	Tue, 15 June 2004 10:51
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	Malicia	Tue, 15 June 2004 11:40
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	lyle-act	Tue, 15 June 2004 22:54
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	NickAE86	Wed, 16 June 2004 00:28
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Wed, 16 June 2004 01:32
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	soaringmik	Wed, 16 June 2004 03:33
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Wed, 16 June 2004 09:47
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Thu, 17 June 2004 10:48
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	HooN	Wed, 16 June 2004 04:26
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Thu, 17 June 2004 11:31
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Thu, 17 June 2004 11:41
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Thu, 17 June 2004 11:53
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Thu, 17 June 2004 12:01
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Thu, 17 June 2004 11:43
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Thu, 17 June 2004 11:55
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Thu, 17 June 2004 13:17
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Thu, 17 June 2004 13:48
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	joyride	Thu, 17 June 2004 14:06
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Thu, 17 June 2004 14:10
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Thu, 17 June 2004 14:19
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Thu, 17 June 2004 14:27
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Thu, 17 June 2004 14:43
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Thu, 17 June 2004 14:53
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Thu, 17 June 2004 15:00
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Thu, 17 June 2004 15:02
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Thu, 17 June 2004 15:16
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Thu, 17 June 2004 15:18
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	venzy	Thu, 17 June 2004 15:58
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Fri, 18 June 2004 00:06
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Fri, 18 June 2004 06:17
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	venzy	Sun, 27 June 2004 14:49
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	lang	Thu, 17 June 2004 16:02
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 17 June 2004 16:35
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	tempest	Fri, 18 June 2004 00:08
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Fri, 18 June 2004 07:27
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	mick	Fri, 18 June 2004 08:24
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Fri, 18 June 2004 12:50
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Fri, 18 June 2004 09:17
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	mick	Fri, 18 June 2004 09:28
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Sat, 19 June 2004 12:27
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	juzzo84	Sat, 08 January 2005 11:23
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Mon, 21 June 2004 05:38
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Mon, 21 June 2004 06:40
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Mon, 21 June 2004 08:34
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	thevelvetgreasemonkey	Mon, 21 June 2004 13:58
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	RobST162	Mon, 21 June 2004 13:59
	Real hip hop	Mookie	Mon, 21 June 2004 14:52
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Tue, 22 June 2004 05:23
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Tue, 22 June 2004 06:14
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Thu, 24 June 2004 15:08
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Thu, 24 June 2004 15:34
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Sun, 27 June 2004 11:59
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Fri, 25 June 2004 00:50
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Fri, 25 June 2004 05:09
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Fri, 25 June 2004 05:14
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	mynameisrodney	Sun, 27 June 2004 11:51
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	mynameisrodney	Sun, 27 June 2004 12:05
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Sun, 27 June 2004 13:58
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Sun, 27 June 2004 15:52
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	venzy	Sun, 27 June 2004 23:56
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Mon, 28 June 2004 01:41
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	joyride	Mon, 28 June 2004 08:36
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Mon, 28 June 2004 09:05
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Thu, 01 July 2004 17:53
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	torque	Tue, 06 July 2004 06:50
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	Mookie	Tue, 06 July 2004 09:14
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	deltathing	Thu, 08 July 2004 01:29
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Thu, 08 July 2004 10:45
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	matt86sx	Thu, 08 July 2004 23:31
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Fri, 09 July 2004 04:57
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	4ageeza	Fri, 09 July 2004 09:00
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	SillyCar88	Fri, 09 July 2004 13:08
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	juzzo84	Sat, 08 January 2005 11:33
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	no_tofu_speed	Sun, 09 January 2005 09:55
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	no_tofu_speed	Sun, 09 January 2005 10:08
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	ra23mad	Sun, 09 January 2005 10:44
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	no_tofu_speed	Sun, 09 January 2005 15:04
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Mon, 10 January 2005 04:47
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	pr1nce	Mon, 10 January 2005 05:23
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	kojak	Mon, 10 January 2005 07:03
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Mon, 10 January 2005 11:12
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	thu187	Mon, 10 January 2005 21:24
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	Julz01	Mon, 10 January 2005 11:32
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Tue, 11 January 2005 10:59
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 11 January 2005 11:45
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	Galactic Soap	Fri, 14 January 2005 07:31
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	no_tofu_speed	Sun, 16 January 2005 03:42
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	EldarO	Sun, 16 January 2005 10:29
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	magicmitch	Sun, 16 January 2005 13:31
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	thu187	Sun, 16 January 2005 15:27
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Mon, 17 January 2005 03:05
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	Galactic Soap	Mon, 17 January 2005 03:32
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	Mookie	Thu, 20 January 2005 04:01
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	hokey	Mon, 24 January 2005 11:08
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Tue, 25 January 2005 00:24
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	Jorrs	Tue, 25 January 2005 07:11
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Tue, 25 January 2005 18:29
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	deltathing	Thu, 27 January 2005 05:59
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Thu, 27 January 2005 15:40
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	Mookie	Thu, 27 January 2005 06:13
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	deltathing	Fri, 28 January 2005 01:39
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	truenosedan	Fri, 28 January 2005 02:26
	Re: The 'real' HIP HOP thread	Galactic Soap	Fri, 28 January 2005 02:47

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