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Re: Roll centre adjusters? RA28 Mon, 21 June 2004 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Howdy, been looking at this thread but unsure where to start...

I guess with the easy stuff Smile

Every MM you lower the front of the car ultimately should be made up with the use of RCAs. So if you lower it 20mm, put a 20mm RCA in.

The roll centre ... If you look at a car while going through a corner the body of the car is not horizontal to the road (duh). The roll centre basically is the point where the car rotates. This place usually is an imaginary space.

The instantaneous centre ... When the wheel goes through the suspension travel, bump or droop, there is a point in which the wheel rotated. There is a centre in which the wheel will rotate, this is the instantaneous centre.

On RA28's (MacPherson strut), to find the instananeous centre ... this is where it gets confusing.

You draw a line through the pivot at the top of the strut at 90 degrees to the strut centreline. Then draw a line that follows the angle of the control arm. These 2 lines will intersect at some point. Where these arms intersect is the instaneous centre mentioned above..

Now the actually effect of all this.. Well one very apparent thing is bump steer. When designing a steering system the steering arm actually needs to follow a line from the instantaneous centre to the outer tie rod end.

Reading the above, you should be able to see that lowering a car, and altering the angle of the control arm, changes the instantaneous centre. So this ultimately changes the position of where the steering arms need to be. But we all know when you lower a car the rack/drag link/whatever, will not change hence no longer follows the correct angles.

Hmm well thats probably confused you enough..

Let me know if you dont understand though and what exactly and i'll see if I can explain..

I learnt way too much about all this when converting to rack n pinion steering in the Celica.

Cheers
Joel
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