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Johnny
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Re: AE71 - AE86 DIFFERENCE

Wed, 23 June 2004 01:28

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So far as i know there was never any 4AGE AE71 and therefore it cannot even be homologated in a "small numbers" CAMS program.

Sorry but this is not what I'm on about, all you have to do is argue the point that everything going into car A which is homologated will be a direct fit to car B and reason why you want to do this ie AE86 now becoming scarce has 4A block, etc.. Your still using stock toyota Items which are mass produced on a mass produced vehicle, which is in the spirit of being a Massed Produced vehicle, besides where is there any Homologation for an AE71? to my Knowlegde, No.

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AE71 for rally about 5 years ago

Well there's a problem, Andy Clark was in charge then and he was a bit tight in the lower bowel area. Now there is some young blood involved, Campbell Andrea, and he has very good Ideas for the sport, and I have found him to have a very broad mind which is great for the sport and he is very open to these kind of ideas, with the respect that the sport does need to move forward but with respect to safety and cost. ATM They're trying to keep the sport competitive at reasonable cost with the best safety possible, but without the hassles of going down the Grp G era again... If they surcumber IP rules that's they're best possible way to broaden the sport in my opinion, but to get ARComm to realise this Campbell is working over time.... Any Car conversion I've seen in IP racing has no reasons why that car couldn't be engineered and street driven.

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you could do it on the basis of it having a 4A block which is compatible with the 4AGE and ask for special consideration on the head change

again another point mention, any I did throw that at them, what are the differences between the homologated AE101 corolla 4AFE block and a homologated AE101 Levin Block? Of course many here would be able to Tell me, and I know, but the rules does allow me to use the Levin block in a Corolla, so why shouldn't I be allowed to use the internal + head etc.... Though Bill Sherwood would still want the FE head Smile

. Also the AE71 was never a homologated model, which means it has no specs to go off really and what stops you sticking the 4AGE in one and driving it on the street... Now there has to be over 200 examples running around (the current number of homologation it's not 500) and none need an engine cert.

In all, The report I submitted to CAMS has really given the system a good shake up, and they are now considering a major rule change, especially after talking to a few ARC F16 crews (Denise Collins, Lee Peterson etc) . They have been pushing for similar rules since day one, They all really don't give a crap as long as the engine is a 1600cc from the same manufactuer, and I'm sure that many out there are also of the same opinion, regardless of what class they run. The report does stipulate that too, so may be we will get our cream for once....

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