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7M-Brisbane Forums Junkie Location: Brisbane Registered: November 2002	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife Tue, 06 July 2004 10:47 Quote: The guys are right - $4500 is a bit of a dreamer's price, but you sound fairly mechanically savvy More like $4500 install costs! Exhaust and the tow to get it there is a thousand bucks alone! What about engineering? An intercooler? Intercooler piping? Wiring? Fuel lines? Tailshaft? New clutch? All adds up people. If you think I'm full of shit and you can do it cheaper then by all means please do - but it will be a bucket of bolts unless you have the skills to do all the fabrication work yourself. And mechanically savvy??? Did you even read this post??? Check again: Quote: a) the 7MGTE even though its torquey has a very long downstroke and the shorter downstroke on the 1JZ allows for higher RPMs and faster acceleration (correct? this is my understanding anyway). b) a 2JZ is too big, it can be done but i need something powerful but not THAT powerful. Overkill for an MA61 i think. not to mention too bloody heavy for the displacement. Okay, where the hell do I start? (a) just because an engine can rev harder does not mean it can necessarily rev faster. And even if that did in every case mean it could rev faster, that doesn't mean it will rev faster under load. Remember also that revs = wear. If an engine revs 10% higher it has probably done 10% more work in it's lifetime. There are lots of other variables, but keep that in mind. (b) The 2JZGTE is basically no harder to fit than a 1JZGTE. The only real additional cost is the difference between the two engines. Too heavy for the displacement? What the fuck? The only real difference between this and the 1JZ is a deck height of approx 30mm, weighing approximately fuck all (surely not even 15kg?). Maybe a little more weight from the larger turbos too (5kg?) but certainly not related to the larger displacement. Have you ever heard of a V8? They are twice as heavy and half the power. No, they're not good, but I just don't see where your argument is coming from. [Updated on: Tue, 06 July 2004 10:51] [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	MA61 about to go under the Knife	hamgatan	Tue, 06 July 2004 03:29
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	Celia-Sue	Tue, 06 July 2004 04:25
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	hamgatan	Tue, 06 July 2004 05:11
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	bbaacchhyy	Tue, 06 July 2004 05:35
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	SeptemberSquallIndustries	Wed, 07 July 2004 00:45
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	bbaacchhyy	Wed, 07 July 2004 00:49
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	gianttomato	Wed, 07 July 2004 01:10
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	ZZT231	Wed, 07 July 2004 01:19
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	ZZT231	Wed, 07 July 2004 01:17
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	Chris Davey	Wed, 07 July 2004 01:20
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	Norbie	Wed, 07 July 2004 01:34
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	gianttomato	Wed, 07 July 2004 01:43
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	bbaacchhyy	Wed, 07 July 2004 01:49
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	..J..	Tue, 06 July 2004 04:30
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	Celia-Sue	Tue, 06 July 2004 04:45
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	Celia-Sue	Tue, 06 July 2004 06:03
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	hamgatan	Tue, 06 July 2004 08:00
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	Celia-Sue	Tue, 06 July 2004 08:18
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	hamgatan	Tue, 06 July 2004 08:41
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	STR8 2.8	Tue, 06 July 2004 08:54
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	justcallmefrank	Tue, 06 July 2004 09:23
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	hamgatan	Tue, 06 July 2004 09:50
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	BlackSupra	Tue, 06 July 2004 09:51
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	draven	Tue, 06 July 2004 10:01
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	7M-Brisbane	Tue, 06 July 2004 10:47
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	draven	Tue, 06 July 2004 12:26
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	bbaacchhyy	Tue, 06 July 2004 22:15
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	justcallmefrank	Tue, 06 July 2004 12:50
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	BlackSupra	Tue, 06 July 2004 13:03
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	JAZE	Tue, 06 July 2004 16:15
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	Norbie	Tue, 06 July 2004 22:56
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	hamgatan	Wed, 07 July 2004 01:58
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	bbaacchhyy	Wed, 07 July 2004 02:03
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	Norbie	Wed, 07 July 2004 01:47
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	Celia-Sue	Wed, 07 July 2004 02:02
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	BlackSupra	Wed, 07 July 2004 07:45
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	bbaacchhyy	Wed, 07 July 2004 21:37
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	justcallmefrank	Wed, 07 July 2004 08:20
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	rsdeo	Wed, 07 July 2004 16:39
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	rsdeo	Thu, 08 July 2004 00:51
	Re: MA61 about to go under the Knife	TRD_Supra	Sun, 19 December 2004 21:54

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