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Re: How much does it cost to rebuild an engine ? Tue, 06 July 2004 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Okay I think its time I cleared everything up as you are all confusing each other.

The 3sge for your conversion will come as a FWD motor. Don't bother with the gearbox that is joined to it as it is junk for its new application.

The majority of parts required are already on the sa63. The main parts required are the engine mounts, the bellhousing, the flywheel, the gearbox, the 2s sump and oil pickup, etc.

The critical part for RWD conversion is the bellhousing. It must be modified for this application though. It has to be shortened to allow the input shaft to sit far enough towards the crank. Otherwise it would sit too far out and not sit in the spigot bearing that needs to be added to the back of the crankshaft. It is not normally installed in a FWD application.

The gearbox should sit in the same spot, hence no modifications to the g/box crossmember or chassis is required. This is all in the hope that the 3sge motor sits in the same position as the original 2s-c.

There are a couple of other problems with this conversion that make it unappealing to many is the dizzy will foul on the firewall. One solution is to mount the dizzy cap on the front of the motor instead of the back. A custom bracket will have to be made so the rotor button can sit happily on the front of the camshaft.

Next you will have to have a pipe run from the back of the motor to the front because the coolant outlet is on the back of the motor. A 90deg bend maybe needed for clearance required.

Also the 3sge in a fwd configuration sits at a 15-20deg angle in its native engine bay. This would normally prove to be a problem with oil draining from the head back to the sump. So need to keep an eye that the oil is draining correctly. The 2s sump and pickup should be suitable to allow proper collection of oil by the oil pump.

Please keep in mind that I have yet to perform this conversion myself. I am confident that provided you could convert the 3sge to a rwd config, you wont have any more trouble swapping this motor in than any other imho.

If anyone has anything else to contribute or discuss i'd love to hear it as I am curious to anyone elses relative experience.

Cheers,
James aka ViPeR_NiPPleX

PS, im not at home, hence im writing with Lectric's account Razz


EDIT:

I forgot to mention the flywheel. Use the 2s one with the 3sge. Unlike using it for the 3sgte conversion, the 3sge should have a 6 bolt pattern at the back of the crank, the same as the 2s-c. Use the standard clutch and starter motor.

[Updated on: Tue, 06 July 2004 11:24]

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