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Re: MA70: 1UZ-FE afm / stock injectors dyno vid Thu, 29 July 2004 00:48 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Allan wrote on Wed, 28 July 2004 22:54

The 7M-GTE ecu advances the timeing until knock is detected then retards X ammount then starts steping up until detected again while in closed loop mode to maintain optimal fuel (o2 sensor input) and spark (knock sensor input) to give the best emmisions and fuel useage

as soon as your under load it ignores the knock sensor and uses the internal spark and fuel map

The 7M would have to be the only engine in the world which doesn't use its knock sensor at WOT. You still haven't told us why Toyota's engineers would choose to do this when it flies in the face of reason?

Here's some interesting documents I found:

http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h23.pdf
http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h24.pdf

This explains the operation of Toyota's ECU detonation control, and I can't see anything there to support what you're saying. Take this quote for example:

Quote:

To provide for optimum spark advance under a wide variety of engine operating conditions, a spark advance map is developed and stored in a look up table in the ECU. This map provides for accurate spark timing during any combination of engine speed, load, coolant temperature and throttle position while using feedback from a knock sensor to adjust for variations in fuel octane.


Hmmm, do we know anyone who was using shitty octane fuel in their 7M? Let me think... Rolling Eyes

More interesting info:

Quote:

Initial timing + basic advance angle + corrective advance angle = total spark advance.

Basic advance angle is computed using signals from crankshaft angle (G1), crankshaft speed (Ne), and engine load (Vs or PIM) sensors. Corrective timing factors include adjustments for coolant temperature (THW) and presence of detonation (KNK).


Hmmm no mention of disabling anything at WOT? But then again maybe you know something Toyota doesn't. I'd love to see documented evidence of your strange theory. Smile

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