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Re: 105's are better than sprinters Sun, 08 August 2004 00:46 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Well HELLO

How can you compare a early , and yes a classic for its time .
To a 80'S budget hatchback ? There not even close to the same intended market .

Well from have a long list of Alfa past and present i will say this about the 105 series , since there is more than one model in that group which i guess you are taking about , say a 1600'cc junior .

1. Which stupid idiot that design those cars decided to place the clutch and master cylinders under the floor of the car
2. Same as above , with the twin booster set up which 90% don't work , which doesn't matter due to the masters being rusted out every year under the floor . 105 sedans have bigger brakes than the faster coupes , figure that one out ? still to small .
3. Body , or lack of ? rust is small problem compared to the front rails becoming separated at the front tie panel if driven hard , quarter panel joints cracking at the rear as well .
Remember the mazda 1500 sedan , and lancia body design built by the Japanese . They never rusted and where solid as bricks .
4. Suspension , great design for its age . i am sure we have all see pictures of the inside rear wheels lifting in the air around good old amaroo park , to get the car to handle like any decent car , front roll centers need to be changed which isn't as easy as a RCA , rear torque rod has to be re-located completely , every joint replaced with rose joints etc . Then number 3 occurs .
5. Engine , yes great engine same as other Alfa designs solid bottom ends , every other component suffers from wear , and thats if the looked after if it ever runs correctly anyway due to carbys . But remember the race engines which one Alfa allot of races use Anglotto { cannot remember the spelling correctly } three piece heads and the 1300cc did 11.000rpm with a 16v head that out flows cosworth heads of today .
6. Gearbox , sweet box , perfectly weighted gear system , just buy another car if you need to fix it $$$$$$ dollars .
7. Electrical system , well its a Alfa , you dont even have to say , problems if everything worked on one day hell would freeze over !!!
8. interior , what interior ? don't touch a thing or it will brake off !!!!!
9. The worst problem is you cannot hear that great engine over those stupid front quarter windows , wind noise that makes driving a car mean for high speed cruising just so bloody painful . Not easy to fix too ,get some mechanical engineering student to re-design the door and window design with a wind tunnel and you would half way there .

Or if you wanted a classic you could buy what the Alfa alway raced against , A 1800 / 2000 , 1502 , 1602 , 2002 BMW which are still all going strong today .

Or get a 80's classic a AE86 sprinter or if you must have Alfa get a 33 1.7ie due to the designer being ex Porsche and all german electronics and galvernised bodys .

Ramtech , that 75 in your avatar . Remember how well they raced against the sierras ? they where so far behind the pace in the 80's . It wasn't till after they came over here and learnt from the Australia Italians hired to look after the cars for Bathurst . That when returning to Italy there pace got better , bummer there shit hot Italian super star driver crashed the car which Dominic Beninca had driven so much faster than him all weekend .





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