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quest Regular Location: u.s.a. south Registered: April 2004	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71 Sun, 08 August 2004 08:30 you always hear the "1J better than 7M" comment. Whats that based on? Must be a stock vs stock comparison or nothing but mere emotions... certainly didn't stem from blistering street performance. There are quite a few full wt 3700+ pound 10sec 7mgte powered pigs running around. Full weight airconditioned 5 speed cars. What happens if/when they spray (nos), and adapt other/or run built($$$$) toyota automatic transmissions that *drastically* lower ETs.... like all the fast mkIVs run. You're talking about daily driven, deep 9sec monsters - thats 2J territory. Not 1J. I've never seen any 1J come even close to accomplishing that. I haven't seen any street 1Js making 6-700+ ft-lbs torque to the wheels on boost only, as the 7s do. Have any of u guys ? So the 7 has a headgasket issue, big deal. MHG & ARPs, done. Never look back. Yes, my buddys 1J had two crank pulleys come apart. He realized the stock manifolds/twins were useless junk if seeking performance, so he deliberately boosted them till they 5hit the bed. Unfortunately, somehow debris scarred 2 cyliners in the process.. yep, afterward he admitted it was a dumb move. Should have just thrown 'em in the trash can where they belong in the first place. At least folks have ran/dyno decent numbers with inexpensive ct26 upgrades. Reminds me of the u.s. sr20 guys that swap out the 2.4L ka24de motors labeling them as 'junk', then get destroyed by turbocharged KAs.... outta make one feel dumb, eh 1J and 7M are both darn good motors. Each will always have their fans. I'd never replace a 7 with a 1J if I was after a 10sec(or faster) daily driver. Why ? 'Don't believe da hype' [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Supra jza 70 vs ma71	drummerboy	Thu, 05 August 2004 10:43
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Danish	Thu, 05 August 2004 13:07
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	lumpy	Thu, 05 August 2004 22:19
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	JZA70_R	Fri, 06 August 2004 10:16
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	poombah	Sat, 07 August 2004 00:07
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Lucid	Sat, 07 August 2004 00:43
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Jag7799	Sat, 07 August 2004 00:52
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Allan	Fri, 06 August 2004 11:25
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	V8_MA61	Fri, 06 August 2004 11:31
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	poombah	Sat, 07 August 2004 00:05
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Lucid	Sat, 07 August 2004 00:54
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Jag7799	Sat, 07 August 2004 01:00
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	poombah	Sat, 07 August 2004 01:45
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	V8_MA61	Sat, 07 August 2004 07:39
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Jag7799	Sat, 07 August 2004 11:52
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Cyber-punk	Sat, 07 August 2004 22:43
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Jag7799	Sun, 08 August 2004 00:15
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	ed_ma61	Sun, 08 August 2004 06:22
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Jag7799	Sun, 08 August 2004 10:56
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	ed_ma61	Sun, 08 August 2004 11:08
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	gianttomato	Sun, 08 August 2004 16:26
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Special Ed	Sun, 08 August 2004 01:46
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Chris Davey	Sun, 08 August 2004 05:34
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	drummerboy	Sat, 07 August 2004 19:53
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Cyber-punk	Sat, 07 August 2004 22:42
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	BlackSupra	Sat, 07 August 2004 23:35
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Allan	Sun, 08 August 2004 01:24
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Cyber-punk	Sun, 08 August 2004 01:37
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	BlackSupra	Sun, 08 August 2004 08:33
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Special Ed	Sun, 08 August 2004 06:09
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	wastegate	Sun, 08 August 2004 06:42
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	quest	Sun, 08 August 2004 08:30
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	V8_MA61	Sun, 08 August 2004 12:51
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	STR8 2.8	Sun, 08 August 2004 12:54
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	justcallmefrank	Sun, 08 August 2004 15:40
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	V8_MA61	Sun, 08 August 2004 12:58
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	STR8 2.8	Sun, 08 August 2004 13:03
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Norbie	Mon, 09 August 2004 00:07
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	quest	Sun, 08 August 2004 23:11
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	lumpy	Mon, 09 August 2004 00:18
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	spans	Mon, 09 August 2004 14:43
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Rattlehead	Mon, 09 August 2004 20:49
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	lumpy	Tue, 10 August 2004 00:07
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	spans	Tue, 10 August 2004 06:16
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	SoarerFury	Mon, 09 August 2004 00:26
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Norbie	Mon, 09 August 2004 00:31
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	SoarerFury	Mon, 09 August 2004 00:36
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Chris Davey	Mon, 09 August 2004 02:13
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	wastegate	Mon, 09 August 2004 03:18
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Norbie	Mon, 09 August 2004 03:16
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	Chris Davey	Mon, 09 August 2004 22:39
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	JZA70_R	Mon, 09 August 2004 23:57
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	lumpy	Tue, 10 August 2004 07:52
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	dingaling	Tue, 10 August 2004 12:25
	Re: Supra jza 70 vs ma71	lumpy	Tue, 10 August 2004 23:57

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