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Location: Melbourne
Registered: October 2003
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Re: SX Dilemma!!! Celica or Corolla
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Sat, 14 August 2004 06:36
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Boy This brings back memories
I was debating between the celica sx st162, a ae82 twincam and a ae93 Corolla Hatch SX, for about 6 months. I put everything into consideration, fuel costs, spare parts, available modification parts, initial price, insurance etc...
I ended up with the celica sx st162 but that was after numerous drives of the celica sx, ae82 twincam and the ae93 corolla sx.
I'll give u my opinion on the corolla sx and st162... (coz u already know what the ae82 is like)
Ok lets start off, Corolla sx are a bit rare but easier to narrow down what ur after, because they come in only red and white, manual, and with the 4age 100kw. These cars drive relatively similar to a ae82 twincam, only the engine is smoother (partly due to the removal of tvis), power comes on smoother and the mid range is more pronounced. They still rev out to 7700 (as i've found out on one of my test drives) but the difference here is that the 100kw 4age has a tiny bit more torque, 147nm over the standard 137 i believe on the ae82 twincams so its quite a nice difference. Peak power is at 7000rpm. The corolla sx is very comfortable indeed, with seats that support you quite well. Not quite as good value as the ae82 twincam in fun but still a nice performer, 0-100 comes in at around 9.3 seconds and 1/4 in about 16.5 seconds, Great little car, looking at around 4.5k-6k depending on condition.
Now to start off with the celica sx, Now i'll put this straight and try and keep the bias as little as possible and say it how it is...
The st162 is a fantastic little machine, the engine can be described as an uprated version of the 4age 86kw. Torque has been rated up due to the increased capacity of the 3sge, which is 103kw and 173nm of torque, the car weighs roughly 1150kgs, which equals a 0-100 of about 9.4 seconds and 1/4 of 16.5 seconds. The car has really nice response due to the extra torque down below, picks up from quite low, and revs to 7300rpm. Thats pretty damn awesome for a 2 litre, peak power is at 6000rpm. The st162s come in a ST model, which has downrated brakes (drums at the bacck i think), downrated engine (3sfe with 87kw or something similar), and lacks the real bite from the 3sge motor. The st162 also come in automatic, from driving one they aren't bad at all but u feel like ur just pointing and shootin with the automatic, defeats the point of the sports car.
the st162 has a certain style to it, you sit nice and low, steering feel is really nice. The st162 goes from 1986 to 1989, with some of the 1986-1987 models u can find full electrics, usually electric windows and mirrors with some of them coming with a sunroof which tilts and opens. The 1988-1989 i believe came with full electrics standard with some of them having the gt4 seats, which are full bucket seats. I was lucky to get them on my 1986 model (full factory options in my case, YAY).
The st162 just like the corolla sx have a bit of bodyroll but nothing really major, i replaced the springs in my st162 with some king springs and was really quite a big difference.
Both cars take modifications really quite well,
2" to 2.25" exhaust, extractors, cold air intake, king springs, rear sway bar
With those sort of modifications you'll have a very fun car either way...
Both are very good cars, as i was told, it depends if u want a hot hatch, or else a sports car.
Reason i chose the st162 over the corolla sx/ae82 twincam was due to the fact that they are a very fun car, which have a very sporty feel to it, an engine which has a very smooth feel to it, very nice features and a very sexy look to it hahaha.
My cars listed just below my post if u'd like to take a look.
And yeah this is the link to my post about the topic when i was buying my car and comparing a few cars, should help i reckon
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=26580&prevloaded=1&rid=3960&S=5d32d5 1676efd4c950effb88070de53b&rev=&reveal=&am p;start=0&count=60
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Sam4A-GE_Seca | Fri, 13 August 2004 13:16 |
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dimmy77_03 | Fri, 13 August 2004 13:55 |
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Shraka | Fri, 13 August 2004 14:58 |
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Camry_omega | Fri, 13 August 2004 23:39 |
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dimmy77_03 | Sat, 14 August 2004 00:46 |
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Lucid | Fri, 13 August 2004 23:52 |
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Rolla Boy | Sat, 14 August 2004 01:05 |
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TRD-ST162 | Sat, 14 August 2004 06:36 |
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Hirogen | Sat, 14 August 2004 06:58 |
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Sam4A-GE_Seca | Sat, 14 August 2004 07:07 |
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TRD-ST162 | Sat, 14 August 2004 07:42 |
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dimmy77_03 | Sat, 14 August 2004 10:30 |
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Sam4A-GE_Seca | Sat, 14 August 2004 10:49 |
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TRD-ST162 | Sun, 15 August 2004 02:14 |
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TRD-ST162 | Sun, 15 August 2004 02:18 |
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Sam4A-GE_Seca | Sun, 15 August 2004 05:11 |
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TRD-ST162 | Sun, 15 August 2004 06:16 |
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Camry_omega | Sun, 15 August 2004 09:24 |
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doobs | Sun, 15 August 2004 11:57 |
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ROLLA GTi | Sun, 15 August 2004 13:28 |
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-Talasas- | Sun, 15 August 2004 13:34 |
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ROLLA GTi | Sun, 15 August 2004 13:36 |
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Secaism | Mon, 16 August 2004 05:52 |
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shovelnose | Tue, 17 August 2004 03:47 |
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olihaub | Tue, 17 August 2004 03:51 |
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FLYNSX | Tue, 17 August 2004 06:33 |
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