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oldcorollas
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Re: racing harness

Tue, 17 August 2004 06:03

freakincage_com wrote on Tue, 17 August 2004 10:05

so you guys are saying that if i want to put harnesses in i have to loose that bk seats???what about getting the floor reinforced behind the drvers seat and have them go to the floor....?

if you wish to crush your spine, sure Wink

think what happens to the belts and you in an accident....

thanks for the info "djbourboncan", whats the reference for the 8.5.x?

i got my info from P.L.Smith (engineer) in Camden, who are seatbelt and restraint specialists (amongst other things.. or used to be anyway).

from "Light vehicle code of practice" Appendix C3, ADR checklist, release No.1, january 1994, "Reasons for Rejection"

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P4, regarding ADR4/-- (and ADR5)
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B. Unless exempted, a lap-sash belt is not provided for any outboard seating position. (5/00, 5/01, 5/02.2.1),(4/00, 4/01.2.1). Exemptions are:
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vii) A harness type seat belt is fitted (this should be avoided where possible).

it would be very hard to argue that you could not installing a 3 point lap-sash belt, since they are easier to install than a 4 point harness AND were originally fitted in compliance with an ADR. you would need to argue that for some reason you could not avoid installing a harness. one possibility is if a rollcage interfered with their proper operation, but that could also make the cage unsatisfactory...

for a pre-ADR car (such as mine) a lap-sash is not technically required, but it may be deemed that certain personal safety ADR's (such as 4 and 5) are required to be achieved. the COP gives "minimum standards required but where any ADR applies, the ADR takes precedence" even for pre-ADR vehicles.

also remember that even if it is "engineer approved", that does not make it automatically legal Wink

i would be interested if you could give these guys a call

Quote:

Address:
Peter L Smith Engineering Pty Ltd
14 Little St
Camden NSW 2570
Australia

Phone: (02) 4655 9440
International callers: 612 4655 9440

since you 'know your shit' and see what you can talk them around to Very Happy