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Re: OPTIMAX suxs!	Mon, 27 May 2002 07:19

mr gte, let me pick your oh so condesending post to pieces... "You guys crack me up!!!!! Your all going by seat of the pants feel. And some of the cars you are doing it on are stockers!!!! Or not even mildly worked." so the f-ck what if its stock or a f-cking mclaren?? is there a difference? no. whats the point of that staement? seat of the pants? huh? because we dont have a knock sensor? the knock sensor may have a lower threshold for activation, but the human ear (whilst admitedly having a higher threshold) is equally as capable of sensitive discrimination, and is highly consistent in its threshold recognition. "Common, use some brains or technology if u dont have any." and the technology is?? oh, your knock sensor? oh very high tech. it simply alerts you to lower, unaudible levels of detonation. thats got nothing to do with the quality an consistency of fuels as we are talking about. so you have a sensitive gauge. well you should be able to use that, if your car is highly string and depends on good fuel, to recgise that fuels are VERY inconsistent. the very fact that you dont notice such diversity in quality demonstrates that you car's tuning isnt taking advantage of the last few RON's that can be tweaked out of good fuel. "I drive around pretty much 90% of the time with an ultrasonic sensor on my block with a narrow bandpass filter hooked up to an LED output. If it pings the light goes off i back off." congratulations again. when i hear pinging, i also know ive gone too far and i back off. not only that, but i recognise the limit of my audible perception, and back off yet further, allowing for such lack of perception. further yet, i know that my car doesnt EVER ping on good fuel, and thus, am happy to conclude that the cause for the present detonation lies in the poor quality fluid in my tank. the point of this conversation, which you seem to have so eloquently missed, is that the quality of fuel precipitating such detonation is unreliable, and that some fuels are better than others. you dont need a f-king ultrasonic detector to realise that. "You can only hear detonation audiably about 1 second after it initialy begins and becomes so severe it can be actually heard." ahh the old one second rule huh... passed on through generations of mechanics as sacred knowledge. come on. detonation can be totally unaudible forever. equally, it can be so bad that severe detonation occurs very loudly, and is percievabe by the occupants of the car. congratulations on whatever hi-tech gizmo youre running to let you recognise detonation erlier than you would by ear. so your threshold of detection is lower than those of us who use our meagre ears. what the issue is is the consistency of the detection of the detonation. your detector picks it up at a certain level, the same time, all the time. my ear picks it up at a greater level, but still at the same time all of the time. using such consistency, it is possible to predict the consistency between fuels. add to this the titration of fuel with a known standard octane mixture, and it is possible to calcualte the RON of servo fuel quite accurately. "I have never ever heard my car audiably ping because i never allow it to do it so badly." put some good fuel in and tune your car properly, and youll be able to drive it harder, and you wont need that f-king detector. more and more, your post sounds like you want to brag about your detector, and how much everyone else is ruining their cars, but oh...not you, your detector is so good... "You guys are probably driving round with your cars pinging its tits off before you even know it." ditto "Optimax is the best fuel i've used." well youve obviously got no idea about optimax then. either that, or your car is so undertuned that your detector is teling you everything is fine despite running completely shithouse fuel. "Vortex is what its name says but relates to the whole it leaves in your piston." meaning exactly what? your detector tell you this, or do you have some substance to add to that? "Mobil-I've been to lots of mobil servo's in metro sydney and some have it posted as 96 octane which worries me." i think your a little confused sunshine. hows about you follow the thread before jumping in all bragging about how hot your detonation detector is, and how its just horseshit to predict car tuning using anything else. you obviously havent tuned your car 'that' finely otherwise you'd be noticing some abberations on your little meter. no-one cares how good your set up is, unless you plan on being constructive about it. calling people morons, and telling then theyre wrecking their engines is doing no-one any good, and sounds more like your taking the chance to let everyone know how good you are. which, if you havent noticed, annoys people. [Report message to a moderator]

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