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Re: Different gens of 3SGE?
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Wed, 25 August 2004 01:34
 
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The gen 3 motor is definately the best bang for your buck and while getting a half-cut is more expensive up front it will save you dollars in the long run.
And while the newest BEAMS 3S-GE has the greatest horsepower, its set-up for north-south installs and RWD, which has been covered above already.
The gen 3 ecu loom and pin-outs are different from the gen 1.
The gearbox is stronger in the gen 3 to deal with the increased torque of that motor, so while you won't outright kill your gen 1 g/box you will shorten the life of the thing. If you are getting the front cut, may as well swap the entire thing in !
I would be wary of increasing the performance of the gen 3 by too much as you will do two things, increase your torque steer and start to marginalize the strength and life of your FWD drivetrain half shafts and CV joints. Also, throwing cams and a throttle body at a gen 3 does not give you huge increases in power, but it does more your peak power and torque curve up higher in the rev range, meaning you have to rev the rings off the thing to access that power.
Anyone having driven a 2ZZ-GE ZZT231 Celica will know what I mean.
Besides, you are going from 138bhp (when new) to 173bhp, a 25% power increase, in a std 2 litre NA motor, running on 98 octane of course, and no insurance or engineering hassles, both of those together are bigger money burners than buying a half cut. Its not a bad swap by any stretch of the imagination.
[Updated on: Wed, 25 August 2004 01:35]
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ra23celica | Wed, 25 August 2004 01:34 |
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