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RWDboy Forums Junkie Location: South Australia Registered: July 2002	Re: ST165 GT4 Fri, 27 August 2004 03:11 Toyota's 'failure' with the TA64 (?) wasn't so bad, I mean it won three safari rallies in 84-86. And Ivory Coast three times (83, 85 and 86). In fact, the ST205 won less WRC rounds than the TA64 did I don't think that they banned group B over just henri toivonen and sergio cresto's death! Rallying was too popular, crowds were out of control because organisers had to suddenly deal with a level of crowd an order of ten larger than they were used to, the drivers were driving cars that were totally different to what they used to drive just a few years earlier, the pace had increased dramatically. There were so many factors...plus don't forget there were quite a few other drivers before toivonen that died and they ran a few rallies with Group B cars after toivonen's death too. It'd be a bit dramatic to conclude that because of one accident they canned group B. The Delta S4 DID NOT end Group B...the FIA did. I wish they had kept it around though...but I have a feeling drivers would've died in that carbon fibre death trap Group B MR2. I guess that's why we have WRC rules these days - minus the 36mm (?) turbo restrictor it might almost be a good formula. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	ST165 GT4	Squid	Thu, 19 August 2004 02:16
	Re: ST185 GT4	Classique71	Thu, 19 August 2004 02:37
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	Re: ST185 GT4	RWDboy	Thu, 19 August 2004 03:31
	Re: ST165 GT4	Squid	Thu, 19 August 2004 04:13
	Re: ST165 GT4	79rollaboy	Thu, 19 August 2004 06:18
	Re: ST165 GT4	KYOTO	Fri, 20 August 2004 03:11
	Re: ST165 GT4	Squid	Fri, 20 August 2004 08:32
	Re: ST165 GT4	wiso	Fri, 20 August 2004 09:41
	Re: ST165 GT4	Squid	Sun, 22 August 2004 23:32
	Re: ST165 GT4	RWDboy	Fri, 20 August 2004 03:23
	Re: ST165 GT4	wiso	Mon, 23 August 2004 06:22
	Re: ST165 GT4	ra23celica	Fri, 27 August 2004 07:44
	Re: ST165 GT4	KYOTO	Tue, 24 August 2004 23:18
	Re: ST165 GT4	RWDboy	Thu, 26 August 2004 04:30
	Re: ST165 GT4	charliechalk	Thu, 26 August 2004 11:47
	Re: ST165 GT4	RWDboy	Fri, 27 August 2004 03:11
	Re: ST165 GT4	RWDboy	Fri, 27 August 2004 03:18

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