ok sweet i might just keep to clean up work then yeh cos i ma planning ecu turbo etc thanx for the imput so for 250Kw no flowing really neccassary? was looking at rasing the redline too by balanceing etc what are the limits that i can be rased before forgied conrods etc are needed ? as for low end torque is it possible to bore the 1g out any? it have been raised to me that i can get forged postions custom for about 1200 . lol sorry guys i do get carried away sometimes with questions jsut tell me if i get annoying