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Joshstix Forums Junkie Toymods Vice President Location: Sydney Registered: May 2002	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally! Thu, 07 October 2004 02:11 Nark wrote on Thu, 07 October 2004 11:19 I think this is gonna be fun... My experience was with Amigas, so I'm talking about programs like Deluxe Paint. But even the Macs with their killer apps, VisiCalc and whatever the name of that desktop publishing software was. I think we need to take a long hard look at where the instability comes from here. If you have one hardware configuration only and tame applications running on it then you can have a super stable OS. This was the case with Amiga, it's also the case with Mac. Microsoft don't have this luxury as they make an OS to run on any crap hardware with any crap saftware on it. If MS had the opportunity to make an OS for the same kind of situation as Amiga and Mac then it would be just as stable. Hang on they do have one, when was the last time you saw an Xbox GSOD. The Xbox runs a Win2K kernel and yes if it gets errors it will bring up a green screen of death. I can't say I've seen a single instance of this happening however. Microsoft has several weaknesses in the OS market firstly they have to offer a one size fits all operating system that will work with and for the lowest common denominator. People expect backwards compatability between their current Windows XP machine and software they bought for Win3.11. When MS make changes to improve security such as they have with Windows XP SP2 they get burned for causing some applications that are not secure to stop working, however if they didn't do this they get burned for not fixing security issues. The other weakness is the people that use the product. Lets take Blaster as an example. The patch for that issue had been available on windows update for 3 months before the worm hit. However there are still people being infected by it. Now is that a problem with the operating system or with the users, any OS will have patches released to fix security issues Linux is no different, the difference is that paople using other OSes bother to keep the machine up to date. Lastly one of the biggest problems for security issues faced by MS is people just want there to be problems. What happens when exploits are found in Linux? They get reported and fixed. What happens when people find exploits in Windows? They write an exploit/worm/virus. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 09:40
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Mr DOHC	Wed, 06 October 2004 09:49
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 09:58
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Mr DOHC	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:02
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:06
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	THE WITZL	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:05
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:07
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:09
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	stumpy	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:12
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Cool1	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:19
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:25
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 13:09
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Cool1	Wed, 06 October 2004 13:20
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 13:24
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	EvilJack	Wed, 06 October 2004 12:25
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Wed, 06 October 2004 14:06
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Wed, 06 October 2004 14:13
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Wed, 06 October 2004 23:40
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 00:32
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Thu, 07 October 2004 00:48
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 01:19
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Joshstix	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:11
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:31
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:10
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	rthy	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:17
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	river	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:03
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:05
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:31
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 04:04
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 05:15
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Thu, 07 October 2004 01:07
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 01:59
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Joshstix	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:16
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Bradelz	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:30
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	lyle-act	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:37
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:55
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	AE86slut	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:09
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:17
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 04:58
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:46
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:59
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:06
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:13
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	river	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:42
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:52
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:56
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:59
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:14
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	mynameisrodney	Thu, 07 October 2004 07:24
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	bathurst-91	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:14
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:26
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:44
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:47
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:19
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:43
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:50
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:52
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:53
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:54
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 11:11
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:55
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:50
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:01
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 22:15
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Fri, 08 October 2004 01:21
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Fri, 08 October 2004 02:56
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Fri, 08 October 2004 05:00
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	BlackSupra	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:57
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:58
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:59
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	draven	Thu, 07 October 2004 11:25
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	lang	Thu, 07 October 2004 16:10
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	mynameisrodney	Thu, 07 October 2004 13:11
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	draven	Thu, 07 October 2004 13:54
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Shraka	Thu, 07 October 2004 13:41
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 14:02
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	draven	Thu, 07 October 2004 14:09
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 15:15
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Fri, 08 October 2004 00:02
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Fri, 08 October 2004 00:33
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Fri, 08 October 2004 00:41
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Fri, 08 October 2004 01:40
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Fri, 08 October 2004 03:00
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Fri, 08 October 2004 03:29
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Fri, 08 October 2004 04:38
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MFX_Neko_86	Fri, 08 October 2004 05:51
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	bathurst-91	Sun, 10 October 2004 02:19

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